IRC log of aria-apg on 2021-02-23

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18:11:34 [RRSAgent]
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logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-aria-apg-irc
18:11:36 [Zakim]
RRSAgent, make logs Public
18:11:37 [Zakim]
please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Jemma
18:12:00 [Jemma]
Meeting: ARIA- APG
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Chair: MCK and Jemma
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-aria-apg-minutes.html Jemma
18:13:46 [Jemma]
Meeting agenda: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/February-23%2C-2021-Agenda
18:14:38 [Jemma]
agenda+ PR burndown - Code viewer slider
18:15:05 [Jemma]
agenda+ PR burndown - Disclosure navigation menu with top-level links
18:15:21 [Jemma]
agenda+ Plan file directory treeview updates for aria-at
18:15:35 [Jemma]
agenda+ Modal dialog questions
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agenda?
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present+
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zakim, choose the victim
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I don't understand 'choose the victim', Jemma
18:16:37 [Jemma]
zakim, choose a victim
18:16:37 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jemma
18:22:19 [mck]
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MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
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CHAIR: Matt King
18:23:34 [mck]
rrsagent, make log public
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present+
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
18:24:30 [mck]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-aria-apg-minutes.html mck
18:24:57 [Jemma]
agenda+ PR burndown - Code viewer slider
18:25:11 [Jemma]
agenda+ PR burndown - Disclosure navigation menu with top-level links
18:25:21 [Jemma]
agenda+ Plan file directory treeview updates for aria-at
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agenda+ Modal dialog questions
18:25:32 [Jemma]
agenda?
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19:03:02 [MarkMccarthy]
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present+ jongund
19:03:17 [Jemma]
scribe:siri
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19:03:29 [Jemma]
zakim, take up agenda item 1
19:03:29 [Zakim]
'item\ 1' does not match any agenda item, Jemma
19:03:30 [mck]
can someone unmute me?
19:03:31 [carmacleod]
present+
19:04:11 [Jemma]
zakim, take up agenda
19:04:11 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take up agenda', Jemma
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19:04:18 [Jemma]
zakim, next
19:04:18 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'next', Jemma
19:04:32 [siri]
present+
19:04:48 [MarkMccarthy]
present+
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- PR burndown - Code viewer slider -- taken up [from Jemma]
19:04:51 [CurtBellew]
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19:08:35 [jongund]
I am not
19:09:07 [siri]
MK:March 9th CSUN
19:09:57 [siri]
MK: We will have meeting on Mrach 9th
19:10:37 [Jemma]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/slider-color-viewer-update/examples/slider/slider-color-viewer.html
19:10:41 [CurtBellew]
For some reason the call details link isn't working for me
19:11:42 [siri]
MK: Experiancing VO problems or browser problems
19:12:37 [siri]
The focus seems to change in response to some of the keyboard events
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MK: Can any one dig these issues?
19:14:00 [siri]
MK: VO doesn't have own command to go to first or last value
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JK: When tested with slider with VO, it worked well
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MK: iOS/VO ignores grouping stuff
19:16:00 [siri]
MK: gesture is getting registered when scrolling the page instead of scrolling slider
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back in 5 minutes
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JN: See some strange things going on with VO
19:17:39 [siri]
JN: So I mean know what you know just map but yeah there's this, there's some particularly strange things going on when you use a mixture of voiceover interaction models and standard tab navigation and worth it. Yeah. It's like voiceovers getting confused and thing. So, so, I mean the one that's particularly weird for me is if I'm interacting with the green slider and moving up and down using voiceover controls and then I press tab and go to the b[CUT]
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JN: Is it deliberate design decision to have double foucs ring?
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s/foucs/focus
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JN: It is rarely used to use double focus indicator, it may cause confusion.
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JN: One around the thumb, one entrire the label and slider
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s/back in 5 minutes//
19:22:27 [siri]
s/entrire/entirely/
19:23:12 [siri]
MK: Having focus around the thumb might be good?
19:23:48 [siri]
JN: Sometimes you worry about how noticeable the differences but yeah so I mean, looking at native input type course range it just puts one around this, the slider control itself not the label that's associated with it, and not having one on the thumb.
19:25:46 [siri]
CM: Ask Joe to look at Focus indicator?
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JN: Suggest to remove foucs around the entire slider and have focus on thumb
19:26:39 [Jemma]
agenda?
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s/foucs/focus
19:26:53 [mck]
From Accessibility Features: • Use of SVG enables high contrast support by providing a means for text and rect element to adapt to high contrast colors using the currentColor value
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for the stroke and fill properties.
19:26:55 [Jemma]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- PR burndown - Disclosure navigation menu with top-level links -- taken up [from Jemma]
19:28:13 [siri]
MK: Can you translate the bullet with SVG?
19:29:29 [siri]
JN: we are using current color property to match the system colors
19:31:02 [siri]
MK: Can you update the document so that user can understand without looking at code?
19:31:44 [siri]
CM: can you add word inline?
19:33:29 [siri]
CN: I will take care of that part of documentation
19:34:25 [siri]
MK: Pointer events main benefit is touch based AT can enable the keyboard event. It is worth to mention it in the Pointer bullet
19:35:19 [siri]
MK: I will work on the wording for the pointer bullet
19:35:55 [siri]
JK: Support Matt's view
19:36:41 [siri]
MK: WOrk on pointer wording piece, JK work on visual review, Jon will work on SVG bullet point
19:36:45 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1746#issue-566208588
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agenda?
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Plan file directory treeview updates for aria-at -- taken up [from Jemma]
19:37:47 [Jemma]
zakim, take up agenda item 2
19:37:47 [Zakim]
'item\ 2' does not match any agenda item, Jemma