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16:49:43 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), sarahhorton
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16:49:52 <sarahhorton> Meeting: Silver Errors Subgroup
16:49:57 <sarahhorton> present:
16:50:00 <sarahhorton> chair: sarahhorton
16:50:05 <sarahhorton> present+
16:50:09 <sarahhorton> zakim, clear agenda
16:50:09 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:50:13 <sarahhorton> rrsagent, make minutes
16:50:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-silver-errors-minutes.html sarahhorton
16:50:36 <sarahhorton> agenda+ Update team on presentation to Silver Taskforce of Errors User Needs Worksheet and Errors User Needs Summary
16:50:41 <sarahhorton> agenda+ Review Scope and Timeline; discuss next steps
16:50:44 <sarahhorton> agenda+ Review February Tasks; assign tasks
16:52:20 <sarahhorton> agenda+ Discuss ways to collect input and feedback, e.g., additional error flows
16:54:34 <sarahhorton> agenda?
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17:12:29 <Sukriti> scribe:Sukriti
17:13:29 <Sukriti> zakim, next item
17:13:29 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Update team on presentation to Silver Taskforce of Errors User Needs Worksheet and Errors User Needs Summary -- taken up [from sarahhorton]
17:14:45 <Sukriti> sarah: everyone really happy about the approach
17:14:53 <Sukriti> ...in the larger group
17:16:24 <Sukriti> zakim, next item
17:16:24 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Review Scope and Timeline; discuss next steps -- taken up [from sarahhorton]
17:16:45 <sarahhorton> Scope: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KrDoB4wNJGKwhQ7MhXSQzj1vhamt-WaQFR4D0i3QNOA/edit#heading=h.1c6d9fdd68lf
17:18:59 <Sukriti> Sarah: timeline
17:19:05 <Sukriti> zakim, next item
17:19:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review February Tasks; assign tasks -- taken up [from sarahhorton]
17:20:56 <Sukriti> tasks for the month divided up into individually assignable pieces
17:21:45 <Sukriti> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Main_Page#Sub_Groups
17:26:31 <sarahhorton> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DBP8ujOs6HeZ1dYQWBbSOAssATCNDEcLYMF3VYRCAZk/edit#gid=526717162
17:26:43 <Sukriti> Sarah: guidelines from the first public working draft
17:27:39 <Sukriti> ...that and the guidelines worksheet to model out guidelines
17:29:27 <Sukriti> sukriti: are errors a subtopic of other guidelines or guidelines of their own?
17:29:43 <Sukriti> Sarah: Can be either depending on the scenario
17:30:00 <Sukriti> ...came up in call last week
17:30:03 <Sukriti> ...contrasts
17:30:43 <Sukriti> ...should there be a different error contrast than general
17:31:03 <Sukriti> ...there could be a case where that is the requirement
17:31:43 <Sukriti> ...our scope is for error related guidelines for now
17:32:28 <Sukriti> chris: related guidelines in the summary sheet
17:33:27 <Sukriti> ...cross mapping between different groups
17:35:17 <Sukriti> ...there are things in the user needs data such as persistent data
17:36:01 <Sukriti> ...thinking about the language of the guidelines and applicability
17:36:23 <Sukriti> Todd: also for the timed guideline
17:37:30 <Sukriti> ...is there a non text contrast section as well?
17:38:23 <Sukriti> chris: error icons for additional understanding
17:39:09 <Sukriti> Sarah: subgroups that currently exist
17:40:36 <Sukriti> ...asking or compiling a list of things we're looking at
17:40:52 <Sukriti> ...content resources to use for developing guidelines
17:41:11 <Sukriti> chris: need to be w3c or external?
17:41:27 <Sukriti> sarah: need to stick with silver resources
17:41:48 <Sukriti> chris: I can do that
17:42:45 <Sukriti> sarah: next thing would be to go through the worksheet and add a column that is yes/no
17:42:54 <Sukriti> ...errors/ guideline?
17:43:03 <Sukriti> ...yes this is an errors guideline
17:43:11 <Sukriti> yes/no/maybe
17:45:45 <Sukriti> sarah: one way to do it would be to have 2 of us to do that
17:45:54 <Sukriti> ...get together and do it together
17:46:34 <Sukriti> Sukriti: I can do it
17:46:45 <Sukriti> ...two columns and discuss where there is a disagreement
17:47:13 <Sukriti> todd: can do that
17:49:31 <Sukriti> sarah: content category, and other content to put in the guidelines outline for the end of the month
17:50:04 <Sukriti> ...come up with a template
17:50:57 <sarahhorton> https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/
17:51:38 <Sukriti> ...structured content description
17:54:38 <Sukriti> sarah: working meeting not scheduled at the moment
17:55:08 <Sukriti> chris: throwing a whole section in and seeing where the gaps are
17:55:21 <Sukriti> sarah: if someone wants to host it, would work
17:55:31 <Sukriti> todd: can host
17:55:47 <Sukriti> ...don't mind getting on the collaborative call
17:56:02 <Sukriti> chris: doesn't have to be every week
17:56:14 <Sukriti> sarah: do one on Friday?
17:56:20 <Sukriti> chris: that works
17:56:31 <Sukriti> sarah: 11 ET
17:56:56 <Sukriti> todd: can do Fridays
17:57:03 <Sukriti> sarah: can use the w3c room
17:58:31 <Sukriti> sarah: Janina was explaining iOT error flows
17:59:16 <Sukriti> zakim, next item
17:59:16 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Discuss ways to collect input and feedback, e.g., additional error flows -- taken up [from sarahhorton]
18:00:05 <Sukriti> ...deliberate about getting feedback
18:00:20 <Sukriti> ...helpful to catch edge cases Janina mentioned
18:00:37 <Sukriti> rrsagent, generate minutes
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18:13:07 <sarahhorton> present+ Chrispy, deanhamack
18:13:20 <sarahhorton> rrsagent, generate minutes
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18:30:34 <sarahhorton> s/Chrispy/Crispy
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