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20:45:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
20:45:34 <trackbot> Date: 03 February 2021
20:45:58 <riccardoAlbertoni_> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:46:08 <riccardoAlbertoni_> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:46:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni_
20:53:05 <riccardoAlbertoni_> present+
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21:01:18 <riccardoAlbertoni_> \me the host codes we have does not work let meet on google? meet.google.com/ivn-otna-mjm
21:03:22 <riccardoAlbertoni_> \me ok..
21:03:33 <riccardoAlbertoni_> \me visto .. grazie
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21:07:58 <riccardoAlbertoni_> regret+  makx
21:08:06 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.02.03
21:08:40 <riccardoAlbertoni_> regret+ peter
21:09:00 <AndreaPerego> s/regret+/regrets+/
21:09:09 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:09:29 <AndreaPerego> present+
21:09:34 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:10:14 <AndreaPerego> s/\me /\/me /
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21:10:51 <riccardoAlbertoni_> chair: RiccardoAlbertoni
21:10:51 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: AndreaPerego
21:10:55 <AndreaPerego> present+ DaveBr
21:10:57 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:11:10 <AndreaPerego> topic: approve last meeting minutes
21:11:13 <riccardoAlbertoni_> PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes  https://www.w3.org/2021/01/20-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:11:17 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:11:18 <DaveBr> 0
21:11:23 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
21:11:27 <DaveBr> present+
21:11:32 <riccardoAlbertoni_> RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes  https://www.w3.org/2021/01/20-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:11:36 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:11:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:11:47 <AndreaPerego> topic: agenda
21:11:47 <riccardoAlbertoni_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.02.03
21:11:54 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Any changes to agenda?
21:11:55 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:12:59 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Maybe we can discuss the most recently created issues.
21:13:01 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Fine.
21:13:23 <AndreaPerego> topic: Issue #1290
21:13:25 <AndreaPerego> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1290
21:13:58 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Any objections to mark this issue as a requirement?
21:15:05 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: The source issue is here with some background: https://github.com/netwerk-digitaal-erfgoed/registry-api/issues/36
21:16:29 <AndreaPerego> ... They have also a spec: https://netwerk-digitaal-erfgoed.github.io/requirements-datasets/
21:18:02 <AndreaPerego> ... The there is no fully elaborated use case.
21:18:36 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: We can still mark it as a requirement. But I am not sure it should be included into DCAT.
21:19:23 <AndreaPerego> ... There are many ways to harvest metadata records, and we don't have to support all.
21:19:49 <AndreaPerego> DaveBr: It is also not clear to me which is the use case behind the requirement.
21:20:55 <AndreaPerego> ... Also not sure such a req should be part of DCAT. It is more on the CONNEG side.
21:21:41 <AndreaPerego> ... We need first to better understand the underlying use cases.
21:22:26 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: We actually have to types of reqs: those in UCR (the "official" ones) and those contributed afterwards.
21:22:40 <AndreaPerego> ... So we have been more flexible with them.
21:23:47 <AndreaPerego> DaveBr: We need anyway to respond and no more to understand if it can be considered a Req.
21:24:20 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Maybe it would be safest to mark it as "feedback" and ask them to elaborate the use case.
21:24:24 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: +1
21:24:30 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
21:24:38 <DaveBr> +1
21:25:00 <AndreaPerego> resolved: Mark issue #1290 as fedback and ask to elaborate the use case
21:26:26 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:29:02 <AndreaPerego> topic: Planning
21:29:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:29:28 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: During the last meeting some questions on editors availability was raised.
21:29:46 <AndreaPerego> ... It is important how much work we can do.
21:30:18 <AndreaPerego> ... Peter was going to ask editors how much time they can devote.
21:31:19 <AndreaPerego> ... AndreaPerego, DaveBr, which is your availability in the next month?
21:31:43 <AndreaPerego> DaveBr: I should have time over the next few months.
21:32:13 <AndreaPerego> ... Don't know however how to quantify the time I can devote.
21:33:23 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Same situation as DaveBr.
21:35:29 <riccardoAlbertoni_> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects?query=is%3Aopen+sort%3Aname-asc
21:35:30 <AndreaPerego> ... But maybe we should go for Makx's proposal: we define a publication schedule, and we go out at the decided date with what we did.
21:36:16 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: We can then look at the projects on GitHub to decide where to focus on.
21:36:31 <AndreaPerego> ... In the FPWD the focus was on versioning and data series.
21:36:50 <riccardoAlbertoni_> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rqZElMXqxBjxQpo5Pt0Tf5dPpXPwnoSvBoh3Aqg_4-o/edit#gid=0
21:36:50 <AndreaPerego> ... The feedback we are expecting is more on the versioning side.
21:37:28 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: I prepared a Google doc ^^ where you can find the projects, and select those we want to focus on in the next month.
21:37:50 <AndreaPerego> ... We can look at them and then decide the date for the next PWD.
21:39:05 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: plh, any suggestions about the schedule?
21:40:03 <AndreaPerego> plh: Actually, you can do it when you want. Considering that the FPWD was in December, maybe the beginning of March is an option.
21:40:07 <AndreaPerego> q=
21:40:13 <AndreaPerego> s/q=//
21:40:14 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:41:58 <AndreaPerego> ack AndreaPerego
21:42:21 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: May be worth focussing on the versioning section. This could be done within the beginning of March.
21:42:45 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Not sure about it. I would like to have some more feedback.
21:42:59 <DaveBr> q+
21:43:07 <AndreaPerego> ... I am not even sure about the direction to be taken - as defining new terms.
21:44:04 <AndreaPerego> DaveBr: It seems anyway that versioning is something on which we should make some progress.
21:44:38 <AndreaPerego> ... We can try other ways of outreach, but this does not prevent us moving on.
21:45:00 <AndreaPerego> ... We need also to give people something to react on.
21:45:17 <riccardoAlbertoni_> q+
21:45:31 <riccardoAlbertoni_> ack DaveBr
21:45:50 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I agree with DaveBr.
21:46:19 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: I agree to give the priority on versioning. Let's try and see.
21:46:20 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:46:26 <AndreaPerego> ack riccardoAlbertoni_
21:46:29 <riccardoAlbertoni_> ack riccardoAlbertoni_
21:46:30 <AndreaPerego> ack AndreaPerego
21:47:31 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I can try and prepare a new version of the versioning section, so we can discuss on something tangible.
21:49:21 <AndreaPerego> action: AndreaPerego to prepare a new version of the versioning section
21:49:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-438 - Prepare a new version of the versioning section [on Andrea Perego - due 2021-02-10].
21:49:57 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Fine. Besides this, should we focus on data series, or something else?
21:49:59 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:50:07 <riccardoAlbertoni_> ack q+
21:51:26 <riccardoAlbertoni_> ack AndreaPerego
21:51:36 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I suggest we look at the projects to find what we should focus on.
21:52:35 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Agreed.
21:52:42 <DaveBr> +1
21:52:44 <AndreaPerego> topic: Pending requirements
21:52:50 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:52:56 <riccardoAlbertoni_> Related vocabularies mapping [RVM] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/88
21:53:08 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: The first one is ^^
21:53:35 <AndreaPerego> ... During the last meeting we decided not to map them.
21:53:38 <riccardoAlbertoni_>  https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/87
21:53:49 <AndreaPerego> ... Sorry, the right issue is #87
21:54:04 <AndreaPerego> ... It's about controlled vocabularies.
21:54:24 <AndreaPerego> s/controlled/related/
21:54:51 <AndreaPerego> ... Especially VoID and QB.
21:54:55 <riccardoAlbertoni_>  Close issue https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/87  as joint use with other vocabulary are already discussed in the document. DCAT Recommendation works under the Open Assumption, prescribing specific mapping on other  vocabularies might depend on the use cases,  a deeper comparison among vocabularies seems not core at this stage of work.
21:55:22 <AndreaPerego> s/Close issue/PROPOSAL: Close issue/
21:55:34 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:55:44 <DaveBr> +1
21:56:44 <AndreaPerego> DaveBr: I suppose no work was done in a primer, where it can be shown how these vocabularies can work together, depending on the use case.
21:57:16 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: Yes, no work done so far on a primer. And probably we won't be able to include this issue in the primer.
21:57:54 <AndreaPerego> s/in a primer/on a primer/
21:58:47 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
21:58:50 <AndreaPerego> resolved: Close issue https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/87  as joint use with other vocabulary are already discussed in the document. DCAT Recommendation works under the Open Assumption, prescribing specific mapping on other  vocabularies might depend on the use cases,  a deeper comparison among vocabularies seems not core at this stage of work.
21:58:59 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:58:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:59:39 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni_: AOB?
22:00:04 <AndreaPerego> [meeting adjourned]
22:00:13 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:00:59 <AndreaPerego> s/\/me visto .. grazie//
22:01:00 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:01:43 <AndreaPerego> s/me visto .. grazie//
22:01:47 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:02:31 <AndreaPerego> s/me the host codes we have does not work let meet on google?//
22:02:38 <AndreaPerego> present+ plh
22:02:40 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:03:17 <AndreaPerego> s/me ok..//
22:03:19 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:03:30 <AndreaPerego> s/me visto .. grazie//
22:03:31 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:04:04 <AndreaPerego> s/meet.google.com//
22:04:16 <AndreaPerego> s/ivn-otna-mjm/
22:04:19 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:05:33 <AndreaPerego> s/to types/two types/
22:05:35 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:06:21 <AndreaPerego> s/more flexible with them/more flexible with the latter/
22:06:22 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:06:52 <AndreaPerego> s/The there is/There is/
22:06:53 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:07:35 <AndreaPerego> s/and no more to understand/and to understand/
22:07:36 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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