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14:49:10 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
14:49:10 <trackbot> Date: 29 January 2021
14:49:37 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0019
14:49:41 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:49:45 <Steven> Regrets: Philip
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15:00:10 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2295: Check that his implementation combined @instance and
15:00:10 <Steven> @targetref correctly
15:00:10 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0002
15:00:30 <Steven> Erik: Pending
15:00:40 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2297 - Add links to glossary entry for observer
15:00:40 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0014
15:00:53 <Steven> Steven: So I did this, please check that you're OK with the wording.
15:01:05 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2296: Add text to make it clear where xforms-action-error is
15:01:05 <Steven> dispatched to.
15:01:05 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0010
15:02:49 <Steven> Erik: The question is, is there anything we can meaningfully do?
15:04:18 <Steven> ... don't we say that the event may not be handlanle?
15:04:28 <Steven> Steven: I think we say it for submit replace="all"
15:04:36 <Steven> ... for submit-error
15:04:48 <Steven> Erik: It is in <load/> as well.
15:05:08 <Steven> ... are there any meaning cases where it is possible at all?
15:05:24 <Steven> Alain: XSLTForms fires resource-error
15:05:43 <Steven> ... so it is similar to how submission works.
15:06:24 <Steven> Steven: Which is what this is about. You don't need <load/> really, since you could use submit with replace="all".
15:06:59 <Steven> Erik: You could take the long route, but often it is easiest to just replace the borwser's location
15:07:05 <Steven> s/bor/bro/
15:08:05 <Steven> Erik: It would make sense to fix the target of the error, and dispatch it in the same way as action-error.
15:08:34 <Steven> ... later we could make it an action-error and dispatch both and deprecate load-error
15:09:13 <Steven> Steven: The simplests is to leave load error as is, except where it is dispatched to.
15:09:15 <Steven> All: OK
15:09:29 <Steven> Topic: Sorting
15:09:29 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0017
15:10:06 <Steven> Steven: What do you do for sorting?
15:10:15 <Steven> Erik: We may have two
15:10:27 <ebruchez_> https://doc.orbeon.com/xforms/xpath/standard-functions#exforms-functions
15:10:32 <Steven> ... there was a function in exforms
15:11:13 <Steven> ... and I think we have another
15:11:53 <ebruchez_> https://doc.orbeon.com/xforms/xpath/extension-functions/extension-xml#xxf-sort
15:12:05 <Steven> ... it is different
15:12:29 <Steven> ... the sort keys used to be a string, and we made it a path...
15:12:40 <Steven> ... but that may not be correct from xpath semantics
15:13:00 <Steven> ... the key should really be a function
15:13:21 <Steven> ... but we can't support that
15:13:38 <ebruchez_> https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions-31/#func-sort
15:13:43 <Steven> ... xpath 3 has sort function
15:13:52 <Steven> ... and the key is a function
15:14:20 <Steven> Alain: There is no sort function. Easy to add
15:14:47 <Steven> Erik: It is clearly very useful
15:15:43 <Steven> Steven: THanks. I'll study the options.
15:15:56 <Steven> s/TH?Th/
15:15:59 <Steven> Topic: AOB
15:16:13 <Steven> [None]
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