IRC log of forms on 2021-01-29
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- Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 January 2021
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0019
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- Chair: Steven
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- Regrets: Philip
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- Topic: ACTION-2295: Check that his implementation combined @instance and
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- @targetref correctly
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0002
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- Erik: Pending
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- Topic: ACTION-2297 - Add links to glossary entry for observer
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0014
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- Steven: So I did this, please check that you're OK with the wording.
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- Topic: ACTION-2296: Add text to make it clear where xforms-action-error is
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- dispatched to.
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0010
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- Erik: The question is, is there anything we can meaningfully do?
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- ... don't we say that the event may not be handlanle?
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- Steven: I think we say it for submit replace="all"
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- ... for submit-error
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- Erik: It is in <load/> as well.
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- ... are there any meaning cases where it is possible at all?
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- Alain: XSLTForms fires resource-error
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- ... so it is similar to how submission works.
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- Steven: Which is what this is about. You don't need <load/> really, since you could use submit with replace="all".
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- Erik: You could take the long route, but often it is easiest to just replace the borwser's location
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- s/bor/bro/
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- Erik: It would make sense to fix the target of the error, and dispatch it in the same way as action-error.
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- ... later we could make it an action-error and dispatch both and deprecate load-error
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- Steven: The simplests is to leave load error as is, except where it is dispatched to.
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- All: OK
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- Topic: Sorting
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0017
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- Steven: What do you do for sorting?
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- Erik: We may have two
- 15:10:27 [ebruchez_]
- https://doc.orbeon.com/xforms/xpath/standard-functions#exforms-functions
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- ... there was a function in exforms
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- ... and I think we have another
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- https://doc.orbeon.com/xforms/xpath/extension-functions/extension-xml#xxf-sort
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- ... it is different
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- ... the sort keys used to be a string, and we made it a path...
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- ... but that may not be correct from xpath semantics
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- ... the key should really be a function
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- ... but we can't support that
- 15:13:38 [ebruchez_]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions-31/#func-sort
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- ... xpath 3 has sort function
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- ... and the key is a function
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- Alain: There is no sort function. Easy to add
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- Erik: It is clearly very useful
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- Steven: THanks. I'll study the options.
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- Topic: AOB
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