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21:08:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
21:08:40 <trackbot> Date: 12 January 2021
21:08:47 <antoine> scribenick: antoine
21:08:51 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
21:08:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
21:09:09 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.12
21:09:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
21:09:22 <Ana> present+
21:09:24 <plh> present+
21:09:27 <antoine> present+
21:09:35 <Caroline_> Regrets+ PWinstanley
21:09:38 <antoine> regrets+ peter
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21:09:44 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
21:09:50 <antoine> PROPOSED to accept minutes
21:10:02 <annette_g> +1
21:10:05 <Ana> +1
21:10:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:10:07 <antoine> 0
21:10:08 <plh> +1
21:10:08 <Rachel> +1
21:10:08 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:10:13 <Caroline_> +0 wasnt'there
21:10:42 <antoine> RESOLVED: accept minutes of last call https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
21:10:44 <AndreaPerego> present+
21:10:58 <antoine> Topic: subgroups
21:11:04 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:11:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:11:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:11:37 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:11:38 <antoine> Topic: DCAT subgroup
21:11:49 <AndreaPerego> chair: Caroline_
21:11:50 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we stopped activities during holidays
21:11:51 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:11:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:12:12 <antoine> ... DCAT 3 was published before the holidays
21:12:19 <antoine> ... we've started spreading the word
21:12:25 <antoine> ... to get feedback
21:12:39 <antoine> ... maybe members of the group can help
21:12:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JdX5QAbBrHonCYJCFeOGAz0QfbBou0I_MDWEPlVYK0c/edit?ts=5fdb1f0f
21:13:01 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
21:13:18 <antoine> ... this is the list of the request for feedback, and the list of persons to contact
21:13:38 <antoine> ... I can provide access to whoever asks
21:13:57 <antoine> ... we will resume regular sub-groups meetings
21:14:16 <Rachel> can you please share the sub group next call details ?
21:14:17 <antoine> .. we have 95 issues currently open
21:14:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects
21:14:50 <antoine> s/.. we/riccardoAlbertoni: we
21:15:09 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: this is the project list, organized by Andrea
21:15:21 <antoine> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
21:15:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
21:15:33 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we are going to share the agenda asap
21:16:11 <antoine> s/Topic: subgroup//
21:16:34 <antoine> Caroline_: does the first link (letter) need to be closed?
21:16:47 <antoine> ... can we make suggestions?
21:17:02 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we've already sent some messages
21:17:11 <antoine> ... it's never too late, but it should be important :-)
21:17:48 <antoine> ... we can share the letter with anyone who is interested in contacting people
21:17:59 <antoine> Caroline_: maybe you could open access to everyone?
21:18:12 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: it should be open now
21:18:49 <antoine> Caroline_: are you still meeting according to the regular schedule and the wiki?
21:19:06 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:19:08 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we send the details. People seem not able to access the details for the calls on the wiki
21:19:14 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings
21:19:30 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: yes we still put meetings there
21:19:37 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
21:19:51 <antoine> AndreaPerego: we usually send the agenda on the mailing list
21:20:04 <AndreaPerego> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2020Dec/0005.html
21:20:20 <antoine> ... regarding the letter template, the same text has been sent to the mailing list (link above)
21:20:30 <Caroline_> q?
21:22:41 <antoine> Topic: PROF
21:22:49 <antoine> Caroline_: we should reach out to Nick and Rob
21:22:57 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.12
21:23:04 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:23:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:23:22 <antoine> Topic: Feedback sought on reorganizing the list of W3C Technical Reports
21:23:38 <Caroline_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2021JanMar/0001.html
21:23:55 <antoine> Caroline_: if you can have a look, it's useful
21:24:09 <antoine> ... Dominique is asking feedback
21:26:40 <antoine> q+
21:27:18 <Caroline_> ack antoine
21:27:41 <annette_g> q+
21:27:44 <Caroline_> Antoine: it does seem a good idea
21:27:59 <Caroline_> ... what would be the idea for grouping
21:28:29 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:28:30 <Caroline_> ... there will be some discussion about the logical grouping
21:28:41 <Caroline_> ... using semantic web could be useful
21:29:12 <Caroline_> ... I am wondering if using the WG as additional layer
21:29:19 <Caroline_> ... could work
21:29:21 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
21:29:23 <antoine> annette_g: I agree, organizing by subject grouping makes sense
21:29:38 <antoine> ... doing it by activity could make sense on the top level
21:30:01 <antoine> ... doing it by wg could be problematic if some items change ownership
21:30:13 <antoine> ... the current proposal looks quite unevenly balanced
21:30:23 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
21:30:28 <antoine> ... it would be good to have more balanced distribution
21:30:30 <antoine> +1
21:30:44 <antoine> AndreaPerego: there are still too many groups
21:30:57 <antoine> ... maybe there could be some faceted search
21:31:04 <antoine> ... it's difficult to scroll down
21:31:30 <antoine> ... looking at the variety and quantity of reports, it could make sense to have different ways of grouping
21:31:44 <antoine> ... for example XML technology, or Semantic Web vocabularies
21:31:55 <antoine> ... or most recent versions, or status of document
21:32:13 <annette_g> +1 for faceted search
21:32:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to grouping by facets (e.g., group, activity, inprogress, )
21:32:25 <antoine> ... maybe using an approach like the one of data catalogs (faceted search) could help
21:32:45 <antoine> ... people to find what they're looking for
21:32:47 <Caroline_> q?
21:32:51 <Caroline_> ack phl
21:32:55 <antoine> plh: a bit history
21:33:05 <antoine> s/bit history/a bit of history
21:33:13 <antoine> ... the TR page was a flat list
21:33:30 <antoine> ... it was changed 15 years ago, putting specs in buckets.
21:33:42 <antoine> ... 7 or 8 families of buckets
21:33:59 <antoine> ... people were complaining about the difficulty of finding things
21:34:16 <antoine> ... 3-4 years ago we went back to the list approach
21:34:23 <antoine> ... but with a search function
21:34:42 <antoine> ... we wanted to keep things as simple as possible
21:35:02 <antoine> ... we have hired a professional information/page expert
21:35:27 <plh> https://www.w3.org/TR/
21:35:47 <antoine> ... The current page defines what is a recommendation and what is not, to some extent
21:36:00 <Caroline_> q?
21:36:10 <annette_g> q+
21:36:17 <antoine> plh: people should feel free to comment here or on the mailing list
21:36:23 <antoine> q+
21:36:25 <plh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2021JanMar/0001.html
21:36:33 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
21:36:54 <antoine> annette_g: it's clear it will need some kind of searching/filtering
21:37:18 <antoine> ... if there's a design team thinking about it, I feel confident about it
21:37:21 <Caroline_> ack antoine
21:37:23 <Caroline_> +q
21:38:08 <antoine> antoine: would replying by pointing to minutes ok?
21:38:13 <antoine> plh: yes
21:38:29 <antoine> ... I can do it
21:38:29 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
21:38:39 <antoine> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
21:38:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
21:38:43 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes v2
21:38:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html plh
21:38:46 <Caroline_> q?
21:38:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:38:54 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:39:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/TR/?tag=data&status=rec
21:39:42 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: the function allows to see e.g. things related to Semantic Web and their classification
21:39:52 <antoine> ... and it is very satisfying for me
21:40:07 <antoine> ... I am not sure that the grouping is a step forward
21:40:16 <antoine> ... maybe if some queries are not satisfied
21:40:19 <Caroline_> q?
21:40:34 <antoine> plh the precise link is https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html#t03
21:40:53 <Caroline_> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
21:41:13 <antoine> Topic: back to DCAT
21:41:24 <Caroline_> q?
21:41:36 <antoine> Caroline_: we need to be careful about using the sheet above for contacting the appropriate people
21:41:40 <antoine> Topic: actions
21:41:59 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:41:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
21:42:18 <antoine> Caroline_: actions are old
21:42:31 <antoine> ... most recent one is October
21:43:11 <antoine> Andrea: Action 434. This was not included in DCAT v3
21:43:30 <antoine> ... we'll have to discuss whether we want to include it in the next WD
21:46:27 <antoine> Antoine: the old actions on Profile Guidance are a bit like a backlog
21:46:43 <antoine> ... not touched on since Profile Guidance is inactive
21:46:55 <AndreaPerego> close action-400
21:46:56 <trackbot> Closed action-400.
21:47:06 <antoine> ... if we could keep them for the moment, with the understanding that they are not to be progressed on right now it would be better
21:47:09 <antoine> Caroline_: ok
21:47:28 <Caroline_> q?
21:47:46 <antoine> Caroline_: AOB?
21:48:14 <antoine> ... meeting adjourned
21:48:14 <Rachel> thank bye
21:48:15 <antoine> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
21:48:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
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