IRC log of dxwg on 2021-01-12
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- Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 January 2021
- 21:08:47 [antoine]
- scribenick: antoine
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- rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
- 21:08:51 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
- 21:09:09 [Caroline_]
- https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.12
- 21:09:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- present+
- 21:09:22 [Ana]
- present+
- 21:09:24 [plh]
- present+
- 21:09:27 [antoine]
- present+
- 21:09:35 [Caroline_]
- Regrets+ PWinstanley
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- regrets+ peter
- 21:09:42 [AndreaPerego]
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- 21:09:44 [Caroline_]
- https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
- 21:09:50 [antoine]
- PROPOSED to accept minutes
- 21:10:02 [annette_g]
- +1
- 21:10:05 [Ana]
- +1
- 21:10:07 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 21:10:07 [antoine]
- 0
- 21:10:08 [plh]
- +1
- 21:10:08 [Rachel]
- +1
- 21:10:08 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 21:10:13 [Caroline_]
- +0 wasnt'there
- 21:10:42 [antoine]
- RESOLVED: accept minutes of last call https://www.w3.org/2020/12/01-dxwg-minutes
- 21:10:44 [AndreaPerego]
- present+
- 21:10:58 [antoine]
- Topic: subgroups
- 21:11:04 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
- 21:11:04 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:11:28 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +q
- 21:11:37 [Caroline_]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 21:11:38 [antoine]
- Topic: DCAT subgroup
- 21:11:49 [AndreaPerego]
- chair: Caroline_
- 21:11:50 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: we stopped activities during holidays
- 21:11:51 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
- 21:11:51 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:12:12 [antoine]
- ... DCAT 3 was published before the holidays
- 21:12:19 [antoine]
- ... we've started spreading the word
- 21:12:25 [antoine]
- ... to get feedback
- 21:12:39 [antoine]
- ... maybe members of the group can help
- 21:12:51 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JdX5QAbBrHonCYJCFeOGAz0QfbBou0I_MDWEPlVYK0c/edit?ts=5fdb1f0f
- 21:13:01 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
- 21:13:18 [antoine]
- ... this is the list of the request for feedback, and the list of persons to contact
- 21:13:38 [antoine]
- ... I can provide access to whoever asks
- 21:13:57 [antoine]
- ... we will resume regular sub-groups meetings
- 21:14:16 [Rachel]
- can you please share the sub group next call details ?
- 21:14:17 [antoine]
- .. we have 95 issues currently open
- 21:14:34 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects
- 21:14:50 [antoine]
- s/.. we/riccardoAlbertoni: we
- 21:15:09 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: this is the project list, organized by Andrea
- 21:15:21 [antoine]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
- 21:15:21 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
- 21:15:33 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: we are going to share the agenda asap
- 21:16:11 [antoine]
- s/Topic: subgroup//
- 21:16:34 [antoine]
- Caroline_: does the first link (letter) need to be closed?
- 21:16:47 [antoine]
- ... can we make suggestions?
- 21:17:02 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: we've already sent some messages
- 21:17:11 [antoine]
- ... it's never too late, but it should be important :-)
- 21:17:48 [antoine]
- ... we can share the letter with anyone who is interested in contacting people
- 21:17:59 [antoine]
- Caroline_: maybe you could open access to everyone?
- 21:18:12 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: it should be open now
- 21:18:49 [antoine]
- Caroline_: are you still meeting according to the regular schedule and the wiki?
- 21:19:06 [AndreaPerego]
- q+
- 21:19:08 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: we send the details. People seem not able to access the details for the calls on the wiki
- 21:19:14 [Caroline_]
- https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings
- 21:19:30 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: yes we still put meetings there
- 21:19:37 [Caroline_]
- ack AndreaPerego
- 21:19:51 [antoine]
- AndreaPerego: we usually send the agenda on the mailing list
- 21:20:04 [AndreaPerego]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2020Dec/0005.html
- 21:20:20 [antoine]
- ... regarding the letter template, the same text has been sent to the mailing list (link above)
- 21:20:30 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:22:41 [antoine]
- Topic: PROF
- 21:22:49 [antoine]
- Caroline_: we should reach out to Nick and Rob
- 21:22:57 [AndreaPerego]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.01.12
- 21:23:04 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:23:22 [antoine]
- Topic: Feedback sought on reorganizing the list of W3C Technical Reports
- 21:23:38 [Caroline_]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2021JanMar/0001.html
- 21:23:55 [antoine]
- Caroline_: if you can have a look, it's useful
- 21:24:09 [antoine]
- ... Dominique is asking feedback
- 21:26:40 [antoine]
- q+
- 21:27:18 [Caroline_]
- ack antoine
- 21:27:41 [annette_g]
- q+
- 21:27:44 [Caroline_]
- Antoine: it does seem a good idea
- 21:27:59 [Caroline_]
- ... what would be the idea for grouping
- 21:28:29 [AndreaPerego]
- q+
- 21:28:30 [Caroline_]
- ... there will be some discussion about the logical grouping
- 21:28:41 [Caroline_]
- ... using semantic web could be useful
- 21:29:12 [Caroline_]
- ... I am wondering if using the WG as additional layer
- 21:29:19 [Caroline_]
- ... could work
- 21:29:21 [Caroline_]
- ack annette_g
- 21:29:23 [antoine]
- annette_g: I agree, organizing by subject grouping makes sense
- 21:29:38 [antoine]
- ... doing it by activity could make sense on the top level
- 21:30:01 [antoine]
- ... doing it by wg could be problematic if some items change ownership
- 21:30:13 [antoine]
- ... the current proposal looks quite unevenly balanced
- 21:30:23 [Caroline_]
- ack AndreaPerego
- 21:30:28 [antoine]
- ... it would be good to have more balanced distribution
- 21:30:30 [antoine]
- +1
- 21:30:44 [antoine]
- AndreaPerego: there are still too many groups
- 21:30:57 [antoine]
- ... maybe there could be some faceted search
- 21:31:04 [antoine]
- ... it's difficult to scroll down
- 21:31:30 [antoine]
- ... looking at the variety and quantity of reports, it could make sense to have different ways of grouping
- 21:31:44 [antoine]
- ... for example XML technology, or Semantic Web vocabularies
- 21:31:55 [antoine]
- ... or most recent versions, or status of document
- 21:32:13 [annette_g]
- +1 for faceted search
- 21:32:16 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1 to grouping by facets (e.g., group, activity, inprogress, )
- 21:32:25 [antoine]
- ... maybe using an approach like the one of data catalogs (faceted search) could help
- 21:32:45 [antoine]
- ... people to find what they're looking for
- 21:32:47 [Caroline_]
- q?
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- ack phl
- 21:32:55 [antoine]
- plh: a bit history
- 21:33:05 [antoine]
- s/bit history/a bit of history
- 21:33:13 [antoine]
- ... the TR page was a flat list
- 21:33:30 [antoine]
- ... it was changed 15 years ago, putting specs in buckets.
- 21:33:42 [antoine]
- ... 7 or 8 families of buckets
- 21:33:59 [antoine]
- ... people were complaining about the difficulty of finding things
- 21:34:16 [antoine]
- ... 3-4 years ago we went back to the list approach
- 21:34:23 [antoine]
- ... but with a search function
- 21:34:42 [antoine]
- ... we wanted to keep things as simple as possible
- 21:35:02 [antoine]
- ... we have hired a professional information/page expert
- 21:35:27 [plh]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/
- 21:35:47 [antoine]
- ... The current page defines what is a recommendation and what is not, to some extent
- 21:36:00 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:36:10 [annette_g]
- q+
- 21:36:17 [antoine]
- plh: people should feel free to comment here or on the mailing list
- 21:36:23 [antoine]
- q+
- 21:36:25 [plh]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2021JanMar/0001.html
- 21:36:33 [Caroline_]
- ack annette_g
- 21:36:54 [antoine]
- annette_g: it's clear it will need some kind of searching/filtering
- 21:37:18 [antoine]
- ... if there's a design team thinking about it, I feel confident about it
- 21:37:21 [Caroline_]
- ack antoine
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- +q
- 21:38:08 [antoine]
- antoine: would replying by pointing to minutes ok?
- 21:38:13 [antoine]
- plh: yes
- 21:38:29 [antoine]
- ... I can do it
- 21:38:29 [Caroline_]
- ack Caroline_
- 21:38:39 [antoine]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
- 21:38:43 [plh]
- rrsagent, generate minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html plh
- 21:38:46 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:38:48 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +q
- 21:38:54 [Caroline_]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 21:39:08 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://www.w3.org/TR/?tag=data&status=rec
- 21:39:42 [antoine]
- riccardoAlbertoni: the function allows to see e.g. things related to Semantic Web and their classification
- 21:39:52 [antoine]
- ... and it is very satisfying for me
- 21:40:07 [antoine]
- ... I am not sure that the grouping is a step forward
- 21:40:16 [antoine]
- ... maybe if some queries are not satisfied
- 21:40:19 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:40:34 [antoine]
- plh the precise link is https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html#t03
- 21:40:53 [Caroline_]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
- 21:41:13 [antoine]
- Topic: back to DCAT
- 21:41:24 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:41:36 [antoine]
- Caroline_: we need to be careful about using the sheet above for contacting the appropriate people
- 21:41:40 [antoine]
- Topic: actions
- 21:41:59 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/01/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:42:18 [antoine]
- Caroline_: actions are old
- 21:42:31 [antoine]
- ... most recent one is October
- 21:43:11 [antoine]
- Andrea: Action 434. This was not included in DCAT v3
- 21:43:30 [antoine]
- ... we'll have to discuss whether we want to include it in the next WD
- 21:46:27 [antoine]
- Antoine: the old actions on Profile Guidance are a bit like a backlog
- 21:46:43 [antoine]
- ... not touched on since Profile Guidance is inactive
- 21:46:55 [AndreaPerego]
- close action-400
- 21:46:56 [trackbot]
- Closed action-400.
- 21:47:06 [antoine]
- ... if we could keep them for the moment, with the understanding that they are not to be progressed on right now it would be better
- 21:47:09 [antoine]
- Caroline_: ok
- 21:47:28 [Caroline_]
- q?
- 21:47:46 [antoine]
- Caroline_: AOB?
- 21:48:14 [antoine]
- ... meeting adjourned
- 21:48:14 [Rachel]
- thank bye
- 21:48:15 [antoine]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
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