W3C

WoT Marketing

08 Dec 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Coralie_Mercier, Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura, Coralie, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ege_Korkan
Regrets
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
cris, kaz

Contents


previous minutes

<inserted> Nov-24

<inserted> scribenick: cris

Sebastian: we'll talk about website, video, and media strategy proposed by Philiph Blum
... I will join the opc-ua meeting next week, probably we might skip the marketing meeting

Sebastian: we had a separate call with Coralie

Kaz: are previous minutes approved?

Sebastian: yes

web page

Sebastian: we would like to have more control over the website and give newcomers a nice starting point

seb shows the possible new entry page for WoT WG

Sebastian: we discussed a couple of options with Coralie
... the first idea was to update the w3c WoT page and link to the new page

<kaz> WoT Landing page

Sebastian: however now we have a new solution, basically Coralie will add a sub page called business

Coralie: it is important to update the current landing page with fresh content

Sebastian: ok, so we'll work on the WoT landing page

<kaz> [Kaz's note: There are two types of pages: 1. current w3.org/WoT and 2. newly created WoT Landing page under business after redesign.]

Sebastian: we would like to have also sub web pages

Coralie: I tought about that... a first solution could be to link github pages that you already have

Sebastian: what about using WoT group main page? there's a link to a possible home page. Could we use that one?

<kaz> automatically generated group info page for WoT WG

Coralie: this page is suppose to replace the old one, so you could update the homepage link to your main page

Kaz: as I've been repeatedly mentioning, the current official WG page (https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/) is already a redirection from the www.w3.org server to the GitHub content

i.e.: https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ => https://w3c.github.io/wotwg/

<koalie> https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/,source

<koalie> /WoT/WG/ is proxied to https://w3c.github.io/wotwg/ [see the wotwg repository on GitHub]

Kaz: so we can easily switch the redirection to configure another setting

i.e: https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ => https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/

Kaz: therefore my question has been just that we need to determine which URL should lead to which page, and also we should keep all the content within the current pages/wikis in the new pages

Sebastian: what is your proposal for the homepage?

Kaz: basically homepage link is already managed by us, we could change the redirection setting
... I agree to redirect to marketing page as long as it contains all the previous information

Sebastian: it would be ok

Kaz: what about the blog then?

Sebastian: added to agenda, we'll discuss it in a moment
... I'd like to update also interest group hompage link to redirect to wot marketing

Kaz: changing the redirection from IG to the marketing IG page is ok. But how to manage all the blog entries?
... may we archive all the entries?

Sebastian: I want to focus to url redirection

Ege: for me would be nice to have this

Sebastian: we can later discuss about the content since everything is on github

Kaz: it is ok, but my suggestion is to think about design first and than to redirection after

Daniel: the only content that we are going to lack is the blog posts. however they are quite outdated
... no real harm in loosing blog content from my side

Kaz: if the whole group is ok, we can go down this route. plus blog post is not the only content that we'll lose

Daniel: I see, however I still think we could have a fast iteration design process. starting small and grow later

Sebastian: my proposal is trying to not lose blog information.
... it contains the history of our process, it might be intresting
... however, I would prefer to have twitter than a blog, we do not have time to polish and manage a blog

Kaz: in that case, do we all want to concentrate on twitter?

Ege: I agree to use twitter. Blog posts are used mostly for tutorials or documentation

McCool: I also wander if blog post could be published as article somewhere

Sebastian: json-ld group seem to not use blog post too much

<Zakim> koalie, you wanted to comment on WoT blog

Coralie: historically the interest group was set up as blog. We could archive it or we could keep it.
... some w3c groups use blogs but not all of them do
... an option is to use the main w3c blog

<koalie> the Payments Wroking Group at W3C uses the same blog, for example: https://www.w3.org/Payments/WG/

Sebastian: I am not really against blogs. The problem is that we don't have man power to mataining it.
... my proposal, is to keep the content as it is (archive it). How to express this?

Coralie: I feel that people in wot group have interest to have the blog. so we could leave it and we can just change homepage redirection
... in the short time we just need to know how to update link redirection

Sebastian: so w3c has also a blog. It might be a good idea to use directly that one for future articles

<kaz> W3C main blog

Coralie: In my point of view it could be the best option

Ege: I wasn't really defending blogs. I'd like to have a place to post tutorials or documentation

Sebastian: are you worried that old contents might well recived?

Ege: I'd like to have a place to post tutorials and they don't need to be dated

Sebastian: could we transfer the old post to the main blog?

Coralie: sure

Kaz: let's create a resolution in the Marketing TF and present it in the main call

Sebastian: it would be nice to ask to Dave, since he made blog posts
... we can wait tomorrow

<inserted> scribenick: kaz

Kaz: another question of mine (maybe for Coralie) is about CG
... would it OK to have a CG page also under this wot-marketing repo?

Coralie: yes

Kaz: that's nice :)

<McCool> (note use case call is starting in 7 minutes)

Kaz: if so, we should still have a link from wot/marketing/cg back to https://www.w3.org/community/wot/

<koalie> that cg has a charter but for some reason it's not displayed on the CG site

<koalie> https://www.w3.org/community/wot/wp-admin/post.php?post=4&action=edit

<sebastian> proposal: in the future the url https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ will point / forward to the content of https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/

RESOLUTION: in the future the url https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ will show the content of https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/

Sebastian: the remaining question is the CG content

Kaz: given Coralie says it's OK to have some description on CG under wot-marketing, my only suggestion is simply fixing the link for "CG Scope", which is currently broken, to be https://www.w3.org/community/wot/

Sebastian: would have some more discussion

Animation video

Sebastian: waiting for the updates by the animator
... will forward the current content to you, Coralie

Coralie: ok

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. in the future the url https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ will show the content of https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/
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