<agendabot> Sorry, I did not find an agenda.
trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> addison, sorry, I did not recognize any agenda in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Nov/0017.html
https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-974?
<trackbot> action-974 -- Addison Phillips to Produce additional text in charmod-norm with worked example of canonical casefold matching -- due 2020-11-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/974
action-976?
<trackbot> action-976 -- Addison Phillips to Ask wai for more time on wai-aria 1.2 -- due 2020-11-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/976
close action-976
<trackbot> Closed action-976.
action-978?
<trackbot> action-978 -- Addison Phillips to Create issues on specdev from issue 989 -- due 2020-11-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/978
close action-978
<trackbot> Closed action-978.
action-979?
<trackbot> action-979 -- Addison Phillips to Forward webauthn 2.0 comments -- due 2020-11-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/979
close action-979
<trackbot> Closed action-979.
richard: restarted writing
article that talks about how conjuncts happen in indic
scripts
... and how that complicates handling grapheme clusters
addison: the webauthn string handling section touched this
richard: truncation... thinking about articles or even charmod fundamentals
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
css3-text
richard: raised a small issue and
one other
... fantasai did an edit but don't understand how it works
now
... line boxes having a direction that doesn't affect directio
of the text
... don't understand
... other place says there's a place that says otherwise
... might be to do with alignment of the text
it's https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5759
richard: might need another
term
... someone else can have a look?
addison: deep review or just soe edits?
richard: no issue with additions since april
addison: open issues?
<xfq> Open tracker issues: https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/s%3Acss-text
<xfq> needs-resolution issues: https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Acss-text+label%3Aneeds-resolution
<scribe> ACTION: richard: review css-3 issues with xfq@
<trackbot> Created ACTION-980 - Review css-3 issues with xfq@ [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-12-10].
<scribe> ACTION: addison: update css3-text review request with scheduling thoughts and asking for fantasai's help reviewing opens
<trackbot> Created ACTION-981 - Update css3-text review request with scheduling thoughts and asking for fantasai's help reviewing opens [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-12-10].
<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/91
xfq: for DOM we have an old issue in radar under awaiting, should close?
addison: yes please
<Bert> (The WAI ARIA attribute I mentioned now has -> issue #996 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996)
addison: worth raising with additional question richard mentions
<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5759
<fantasai> ehttps://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#bidi-linebox
richard: didn't quite get my head
around inline base direction of the linebox
... if you look at defn of inline base direct
... it affects order of content
... but here it says it does NOT affect order
... affects alignment of line and things like that rather than
base direction
... do you need a diff term? or did I not understand?
fantasai: multiple concepts
here
... bidi plaintext pulledout
... containing blocks direct
... line blox dir
... and bidi reordering
... could try to make these words more distinct
... basically, all the same thing normally
<r12a> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#bidi-linebox
fantasai: with unicode plaintext
we have the concept of the line box, all 3 can be diff
... linebox indentation and alignment
... sized or positioned, but not the reordering of
contents
... ordering of contents by bidi paragraph direction (I'll call
it)
... that's from UBA
... affects neutral resolution and reorder
... and then there is the containing block
... doesnt have...
richard: you have a containing
block that contains various line blocks
... and also various paragraphs if plaintext
... and paras can have lineboxes beccaus emultiple lines
fantasai: line box belongs to
containing block
... content content contains by linebox and sometimes by
containing
... bidi paras split on forced linebreak
<r12a> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-writing-modes-4/#inline-base-direction
fantasai: linebox belongs to
single bidi para
... dir of linebox is that of para in most cases
... if empty or no strongs then takes dir from previous
linebox
... bidi para and line box might not then have same dir
...
arabic\n...\narabic
<fantasai> <p>The <a spec=css-writing-modes-3>start</a> and <a spec=css-writing-modes-3>end</a> sides of a line box
<fantasai> are determined by the <a>inline base direction</a> of the line box.
<fantasai> Although they usually match,
<JcK> I'm going to need to drop within the next few minutes.
<fantasai> the [=inline base direction=] of a [=line box=]
<fantasai> is distinct from the [=inline base direction=]
<fantasai> of the [=containing block=] or the [=bidi paragraph=].
<fantasai> The [=line box=]’s [=inline base direction=] affects
<fantasai> 'text-align-all', 'text-align-last', 'text-indent', and 'hanging-punctuation'--
<fantasai> i.e. the position and alignment of its contents with respect to its edges.
<fantasai> It does not affect the formatting or ordering of inline content
<fantasai> (which is controlled by the Unicode bidirectional algorithm
<fantasai> as applied by [[CSS-WRITING-MODES-3]]).
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