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15:12:16 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), ivan
15:12:23 <ivan> Meeting: DID WG Telco
15:12:23 <ivan> Chair: burn
15:12:23 <ivan> Date: 2020-11-17
15:12:23 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/2020Nov/0017.html
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16:02:55 <burn> Topic: Agenda Review, Introductions, Re-introductions
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16:03:50 <drummond> introduction from Ted Thibideau (Tall Ted) - has been active at W3C for many years, recovering from colon cancer
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16:04:55 <drummond> Agenda review: recap of F2F, PRs, patent policy decision, editors presenting the plan moving forward with priority 1 and 2 issues, then priority 1 issues
16:04:57 <burn> q?
16:05:00 <burn> ack manu
16:05:09 <Eugeniu_Rusu> present+
16:05:15 <ivan> present+ orie
16:05:29 <drummond> manu: does that include the PRs that have gone in for the data model
16:05:46 <drummond> burn: Brent will cover those first
16:05:54 <burn> Topic: Special Topic Call
16:06:30 <drummond> Special topic call will be Thursday at noon ET, the topic will be on equivalence properties
16:06:39 <burn> Topic: Face to Face Meeting Recap
16:06:54 <ivan> present+ selfissued
16:07:05 <TallTed> s/Thibideau/Thibodeau/
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16:07:13 <burn> q?
16:07:22 <selfissued> present+
16:07:30 <drummond> brent: F2F was two weeks ago. Very productive sessions. Covered privacy concerns, abstract data model, translation between representations...
16:07:43 <brent> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1RoE8E4y8S1j65EJaXZ8oihkduNbjTXXvdwtkzw961Xw/edit#slide=id.p1
16:07:44 <drummond> ...how DIDs are being used today, went into new patent policy
16:08:00 <brent> https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/resolutions
16:08:03 <drummond> ...that link is slide deck for all presentations during the F2F
16:08:20 <drummond> ...and the page where all the resolutions are registered
16:08:48 <drummond> ...resolved to add language to the spec to avoid privacy-violating properties
16:09:10 <justin_r> q+
16:09:11 <drummond> ...we got much more concrete about what it means to ignore unrecognized properties
16:09:18 <burn> ack justin_r
16:09:19 <brent> ack justin_r
16:09:42 <drummond> justin_r: I think it was really good for the group to be forced into concrete details about what it means to ignore a property
16:09:55 <drummond> ...it brought out a lot of assumptions
16:10:21 <ivan> present+ dpuc
16:10:23 <drummond> ...so it resulted in a path that nobody is completely happy with but we can all live with
16:10:28 <ivan> present+ adrian
16:10:29 <burn> Topic: PRs
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16:10:41 <brent> https://github.com/w3c/did-core/pull/454
16:10:45 <agropper> present+
16:10:50 <drummond> ...a number of the resolutions resulted in two PRs
16:11:27 <drummond> ...454 adds language about representation syntax that explains why properties for those
16:11:40 <drummond> ...this PR proposes language for the spec that clarifies that
16:11:57 <drummond> ...this PR has resulted in good conversation and has pretty wide approval so far
16:12:02 <ivan> present+ kristina
16:12:09 <manu> q+
16:12:09 <drummond> ...so we would like to accept this PR as a good step forward
16:12:41 <jonathan_holt> q+
16:12:47 <burn> q?
16:12:49 <drummond> burn: normally with PRs we give a 7 day review window, however in this case we need this PR to move forward
16:12:51 <burn> ack manu
16:13:16 <drummond> manu: We have a lot of positive reviews. I could quickly review it in 5 minutes.
16:13:52 <drummond> ...just noting that we have a lot more support for these PRs that we've had before. The editors are happy with them and I'm seeing a lot of alignment.
16:14:02 <ivan> q+
16:14:07 <selfissued> q+
16:14:10 <drummond> burn: Can we first see if there are any objections to merging?
16:14:35 <drummond> ...Is there anyone who would object to merging PR 454?
16:14:49 <drummond> selfissued: I would object without some editorial corrections
16:15:02 <drummond> burn: maybe we should talk about patent policy first
16:15:06 <burn> q?
16:15:14 <burn> zakim, close the queue
16:15:14 <Zakim> ok, burn, the speaker queue is closed
16:15:31 <burn> ack jonathan_holt
16:15:58 <drummond> jonathan_holt: PR 454 is still too abstract
16:15:59 <burn> ack ivan
16:16:05 <drummond> burn: please add that comment to the PR
16:16:38 <rhiaro> +1 what ivan says
16:16:48 <drummond> ivan: Since that PR puts in writing what was decided and resolved at the F2F. If it faithfully represents the decision at the F2F, then it should be merged.
16:16:49 <markus_sabadello> +1 to ivan . Note that we can also merge and then make additional improvements afterwards (e.g. regarding terminology).
16:16:49 <burn> ack selfissued
16:16:52 <drummond> burn: agrees
16:17:14 <justin_r> q+
16:17:31 <drummond> selfissued: The problem is that the PR does not faithfully reflect what was decided. It deletes the language about unrecognized properties must be ignored.
16:17:47 <drummond> ...If someone can go to the minutes and find the text, I will add that to the PR.
16:17:48 <justin_r> I agree that this isn't sufficient but it's not meant to be complete yet. Same with the 455
16:17:52 <dlongley> selfissued, https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution4
16:18:12 <drummond> burn: thank you, that's good input, we'll return to this shortly
16:18:25 <drummond> ...and the editors can think about how to move forward with that input
16:18:34 <burn> zakim, open the queue
16:18:34 <Zakim> ok, burn, the speaker queue is open
16:18:44 <burn> Topic: Patent Policy
16:19:06 <drummond> burn: we talked about this at the F2F about the new patent policy
16:19:14 <dlongley> selfissued, we more clearly defined "ignore" and the new language is based on that
16:19:23 <drummond> ...we are encouraged by W3C to make a decision by the end of November
16:19:37 <drummond> ...this is the proposal
16:19:54 <TallTed> q+
16:19:58 <drummond> ...is there anyone who has a question that must be answered before they can respond about this proposal?
16:20:02 <burn> ack TallTed
16:20:25 <drummond> TallTed: As the chairs will find in their email, he doesn't know that he can acquiesce to this because he's not the AC rep
16:20:40 <drummond> burn: each WG needs to make its determination about this.
16:20:51 <drummond> ...Ivan, that's a good question
16:21:02 <selfissued> There was an earlier meeting - I think a special topic call - in which we resolved something like "Properties that are not understood MUST be ignored".  Can anyone locate that resolution?
16:21:13 <drummond> ...if a WG needs to adopt something, then it can be passed by a vote of members at a WG meeting
16:21:38 <dlongley> selfissued, in the last meeting we all agreed "ignored" wasn't well defined, so we did this resolution: https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution4
16:21:39 <drummond> ivan: We discussed it at the F2F meeting but did not act there so that WG members could talk to their AC rep.
16:21:51 <drummond> ... you, Ted, are in a special situation
16:22:04 <dlongley> selfissued, that is the language that is in the PR now and it applies to all representations, not just JSON, hence the old confusing "ignored" language has been removed
16:22:11 <drummond> ...in general I would say that WG members had two weeks to discuss it with their AC reps
16:22:38 <drummond> TallTed: As a policy, this is very broken process
16:23:01 <drummond> ivan: He can bring that back to the W3C management
16:23:27 <drummond> TallTed: I researched this new policy and it was hard to find information
16:23:37 <drummond> ivan: This was discussed two weeks ago
16:23:49 <drummond> TallTed: This is not the way this process should be set up.
16:24:22 <drummond> burn: This is all we as the WG can do. During the F2F meeting we provided a lot of information about the new patent policy.
16:24:28 <selfissued> I found it: https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-03-did#resolution2 : "Unrecognized properties MUST be preserved."
16:24:45 <drummond> ...I'd like to suggest that you talk with Phillipe.
16:24:55 <dlongley> selfissued, and that is now in 454 in a more explicit way: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/pull/454/files#diff-0eb547304658805aad788d320f10bf1f292797b5e6d745a3bf617584da017051R2250-R2255
16:25:06 <dlongley> selfissued, and it covers all representations.
16:25:09 <drummond> TallTed: It's outside of scope for this meeting. Ivan, if you would bring this back to W3C. It is broken in many ways.
16:25:35 <drummond> ivan: The cleanest solution would be to recharter the WG.
16:25:56 <drummond> TallTed: It should not be a WG vote. It should be the AC reps for each participant in the WG.
16:26:16 <drummond> ivan: The process is that if the WG decides that we want to go with the new patent policy, a separate process kicks in.
16:26:43 <drummond> ...every member of the WG needs to rejoin the WG, which has to be approved by the AC rep.
16:26:59 <drummond> ...so each AC rep can decide whether their organization will remain part of the WG or not.
16:27:26 <drummond> ...to start this process, the WG needs to vote.
16:27:54 <drummond> TallTed: It seems the default should be to remain with the 2017 patent policy.
16:28:28 <drummond> ...In trying to prepare for this call, I was looking for a diff file between the two policies?
16:28:53 <drummond> ivan: Brent did that comparison in the slides for the F2F meeting.
16:29:02 <brent> patent policy discussion starts at this slide: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1RoE8E4y8S1j65EJaXZ8oihkduNbjTXXvdwtkzw961Xw/edit#slide=id.g9b7a7df111_1_47
16:29:06 <drummond> burn: I would like to get a decision today.
16:29:23 <TallTed> +0 to proposal, pending feedback from AC Rep
16:29:24 <drummond> ...We could actually give a week for comments and responses.
16:29:50 <drummond> ...We can always choose to adopt the policy later.
16:30:32 <drummond> ivan: Any decision we make today is only valid one week after the decision. So if someone objects in that time frame, the decision is rescinded.
16:30:58 <drummond> burn: If an objection occurs within the next week, the Chairs need to determine if there is consensus or not.
16:31:08 <burn> PROPOSED: The DID WG adopts Patent Policy 2020 (https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20200915/)
16:31:11 <manu> +1
16:31:13 <brent> +1
16:31:14 <drummond> +1
16:31:15 <dlongley> +1
16:31:16 <JoeAndrieu> +1
16:31:16 <burn> +1
16:31:17 <shigeya> +1
16:31:18 <justin_r> +1
16:31:19 <markus_sabadello> +1
16:31:23 <jonathan_holt> 0
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16:31:25 <TallTed> +0 to proposal, pending feedback from AC Rep
16:31:30 <Orie> present+
16:31:30 <Eugeniu_Rusu> +1
16:31:51 <Orie> +1
16:32:02 <ivan> 0 (is not to take side on this)
16:32:19 <burn> RESOLVED: The DID WG adopts Patent Policy 2020 (https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20200915/)
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16:33:13 <selfissued> q+
16:33:21 <burn> Topic: PRs
16:33:27 <drummond> burn: Suggests that Manu take over the discussion of 454 and 455
16:33:35 <dlongley> q+ to respond to mike if people want me to
16:33:35 <brent> +1 to manu taking over the PR discussion
16:33:37 <drummond> manu: Maybe all we need to discuss is Mike's concern
16:33:40 <burn> ack selfissued
16:33:59 <selfissued> q+
16:34:05 <drummond> ...I believe the concern is with 455. But if we can move forward 454, then we can get to your concern in 455.
16:34:12 <burn> ack selfissued
16:34:54 <burn> ack dlongley
16:34:54 <Zakim> dlongley, you wanted to respond to mike if people want me to
16:35:03 <drummond> selfissued: The text of two different resolutions needs to be included the approved resolutions. You can't omit those proposals and still have the full effect of the PR.
16:35:23 <dlongley> https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution4
16:35:29 <ivan> present+ by_caballero__juan
16:35:29 <drummond> dlongley: During the WG call, people were confused by the meaning of "ignore" and "preserve".
16:35:33 <selfissued> https://github.com/w3c/did-core/pull/454/#pullrequestreview-532550623
16:35:43 <drummond> ...so we then got to another resolution (linked above)
16:35:48 <manu> I meant 455 -- 455 should be non-controversial (beyond the normal controversy).
16:35:53 <selfissued> q+
16:35:55 <justin_r> q+
16:35:58 <drummond> ...that's what got moved into the Representation Requirements section
16:35:58 <burn> ack selfissued
16:36:06 <drummond> ...so that's what is going into the PR
16:36:19 <manu> q+
16:36:29 <drummond> selfissued: The text he cites. "Unrecognized properties must be preserved."
16:36:55 <drummond> ...the other is that: "Note that the value of the @context member will be ignored if present."
16:36:56 <dlongley> q+ to make a comment and ask editors/chairs to take it from there
16:36:58 <manu> q-
16:37:16 <burn> ack justin_r
16:37:18 <ivan> present+ Wang_Haiguang
16:37:23 <drummond> ...the PR is not complete because it doesn't include those two statements. If you can apply those two, I'll change my review to approve.
16:37:33 <dlongley> +1 to justin
16:37:52 <Orie> +1 to justin
16:37:58 <drummond> justin_r: I think it's important to note that this PR is moving language UP a level to where it belongs. This needs to be consistent across multiple representations.
16:38:03 <manu> +1 to justin
16:38:12 <dlongley> +1 fine with adding the note to another PR
16:38:16 <drummond> ...We need to have the note about @context in the JSON section.
16:38:17 <burn> q?
16:38:21 <jonathan_holt> q+
16:38:22 <dlongley> q-
16:38:28 <dlongley> justin said what i wanted to say
16:38:30 <drummond> ...if we can add that to this PR, let's just do it and move on.
16:38:30 <selfissued> q+
16:38:49 <dlongley> +1 yes, let's not add it back in, agreed (i think the group agreed too)
16:39:05 <manu> +1 please don't add that language back in... the new language is so much better.
16:39:08 <dlongley> s/add it back in/the preserved language into the individual representation sections/
16:39:12 <burn> ack dlongley
16:39:15 <drummond> ...we absolutely must not add in the "unrecognized properties must be preserved" language SHOULD NOT be added back into the representation-specific sections because it belongs is in the overall requirements at that higher level.
16:39:26 <drummond> dlongley: Justin said everything I was going to say.
16:39:34 <burn> ack jonathan_holt
16:39:43 <drummond> burn: Reminder to everyone that the PR needs to just reflect what we agreed to.
16:39:46 <selfissued> I'm fine with "Unrecognized properties MUST be preserved." being added to the representation-independent section
16:39:49 <manu> q+
16:40:01 <selfissued> This is  https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-03-did#resolution2
16:40:11 <burn> ack selfissued
16:40:13 <drummond> jonathan_holt: I think we have some outstanding issues about the ability to represent the abstract data model types.
16:40:17 <brent> that's PR 455
16:40:29 <dlongley> q+ to say, selfissued, "unrecognized" was also problematic, we fixed that
16:40:50 <manu> q- later
16:40:57 <burn> ack dlongley
16:40:57 <Zakim> dlongley, you wanted to say, selfissued, "unrecognized" was also problematic, we fixed that
16:41:05 <drummond> selfissued: I'm fine with the resolved language about "unrecognized properties must be preserved" being added to the Representation Requirements section.
16:41:17 <justin_r> +1 for this new language
16:41:19 <burn> ack manu
16:41:22 <selfissued> q+
16:41:28 <drummond> dlongley: This is why Resolution #4 was incorporated. It is more specific and applies to all representations.
16:42:09 <drummond> manu: I'm not hearing any objections to PR 455. 454 builds on 455. These have been out for over a week now.
16:42:17 <selfissued> q+
16:42:26 <drummond> ...455 has no controversy.
16:42:49 <drummond> ...455 applies a number of resolution that we made at the F2F.
16:42:50 <burn> ack selfissued
16:43:31 <drummond> selfissued: The resolution to 454 is just to add the two sentences he proposed. I have not read 455 yet.
16:43:54 <drummond> burn: The week off last week was for meetings, not for PR review.
16:44:02 <ivan> q+
16:44:14 <drummond> manu: 454 depends on language in 455. 455 is the first one that should go in.
16:44:17 <burn> ack ivan
16:44:20 <drummond> burn: let's go to 455.
16:45:08 <drummond> ivan: We are paying the price for having two different PRs. What I would do differently that normal, because there are no fundamental problems so far, is to merge both PRs now...
16:45:22 <drummond> ...or to merge the two PRs to avoid the messiness.
16:45:23 <justin_r> q+ to talk of 455
16:45:28 <burn> ack justin_r
16:45:28 <Zakim> justin_r, you wanted to talk of 455
16:45:29 <drummond> burn: let's look at 455 first
16:45:34 <manu> q+
16:46:07 <drummond> justin_r: on 455, I left a comment about 40 mins ago that suggests a bit of tweaking for the property and type definitions. If that is accepted, I'm okay with this.
16:46:22 <drummond> ...there's more to be done, but we can handle that in a future PR
16:46:47 <selfissued> q+
16:46:52 <burn> ack manu
16:46:55 <drummond> ...but this will give us the ability to work on that specifically. So I support merging both of these and then "taking the hose to it" afterwards
16:47:13 <brent> q+
16:47:17 <burn> ack selfissued
16:47:20 <drummond> manu: +1 to Justin's suggested changes. Some of those changes have already been made.
16:47:43 <drummond> selfissued: I just read 455 and I agree with Justin's proposed changes.
16:47:45 <manu> q+ to ask if we can take up 455 now?
16:47:47 <brent> q-
16:48:24 <burn> q?
16:48:32 <drummond> ...i think we should apply Justin's changes
16:48:32 <burn> ack manu
16:48:32 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to ask if we can take up 455 now?
16:48:35 <justin_r> https://github.com/w3c/did-core/pull/455/files#r525281650
16:48:38 <brent> +1 to applying Justin's suggested text
16:48:52 <justin_r> q+
16:49:02 <drummond> manu: reading the changes now...
16:49:08 <burn> ack justin_r
16:49:14 <drummond> ...they are fine
16:49:19 <dlongley> +1 to it
16:49:24 <markus_sabadello> q+
16:49:28 <dlongley> +1 to justin's change
16:49:32 <drummond> justin_r: Yes, there was one specific change, very similar to what David Longley had as well.
16:49:45 <burn> ack markus_sabadello
16:49:53 <drummond> manu: I have merged Justin's proposed changes in 455
16:50:10 <brent> q+ to say there is more to be done
16:50:25 <drummond> markus_sabadello: We may want to improve the terminology about how we describe classes of properties. But we can do that after this PR is merged.
16:50:30 <burn> ack brent
16:50:30 <Zakim> brent, you wanted to say there is more to be done
16:50:31 <selfissued> q+
16:50:35 <justin_r> +1 to markus_sabadello's point
16:50:53 <selfissued> I'm not OK ignoring https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution2 - we should do this change and not delete the text
16:50:55 <drummond> brent: With both PRs, there is more to be done, but I don't object to any of the changes these PRs bring.
16:51:07 <burn> ack selfissued
16:51:12 <brent> that is 454
16:51:22 <justin_r> that's 454 not 455
16:52:09 <drummond> burn: Manu, please write the proposal
16:52:19 <burn> PROPOSED: merge PR 455
16:52:21 <Eugeniu_Rusu> +1
16:52:22 <rhiaro> +1
16:52:23 <Orie> +1
16:52:24 <dlongley> +1
16:52:25 <justin_r> +1
16:52:25 <selfissued> +1
16:52:26 <drummond> +1
16:52:26 <ivan> +1
16:52:27 <shigeya> +1
16:52:27 <manu> +1
16:52:27 <brent> +1
16:52:28 <TallTed> +1
16:52:29 <JoeAndrieu> +1
16:52:33 <agropper> +1
16:52:38 <burn> RESOLVED: merge PR 455
16:52:45 <selfissued> I'm not OK ignoring https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution2 - we should do this change and not delete the text
16:52:46 <selfissued> q+
16:52:49 <justin_r> q+  to a quick process question
16:52:50 <burn> ack selfissued
16:53:03 <drummond> burn: now switch to 454.
16:53:12 <burn> ack justin_r
16:53:12 <Zakim> justin_r, you wanted to a quick process question
16:53:20 <drummond> selfissued: Rather than delete the text, we need to make the change.
16:53:41 <drummond> justin_r: Should we raise new issues for specific suggestions?
16:53:47 <drummond> burn: please raise new issues
16:53:48 <brent> +1 to adding the text Mike is referring to
16:53:55 <drummond> justin_r: I will do that
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16:53:56 <dlongley> q+
16:54:00 <burn> ack dlongley
16:54:03 <drummond> burn: Any comments on Mike's request
16:54:14 <selfissued> q+
16:54:37 <dlongley> https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution2 https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution4 <-- think these are the links
16:54:52 <drummond> dlongley: Could the chairs comments on whether Resolution #4 superseded Resolution #2? The latter had newer language to resolve the problematic language in #2.
16:54:53 <justin_r> new issue for type conversion language: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/462
16:55:14 <drummond> burn: I believe that Resolution #4 further refines the text of Resolution #2.
16:55:31 <dlongley> and https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020-11-05-did#resolution3 also moves everything to common place
16:55:50 <drummond> ...Resolution #4 refines the text about consumption of an unknown property
16:55:50 <TallTed> q+ to say Res#2 is clearly a text change. Res#4 is a conceptual change which might be applied to #2, but it's not clear what that change would be.
16:56:15 <drummond> burn: The resolutions are not expected to be precise spec text...
16:56:17 <burn> q?
16:56:24 <burn> ack selfissued
16:56:24 <drummond> ...so there can be additional text added
16:57:02 <drummond> selfissued: Two different comments. The harder one is that the general statement about preserving unknown properties that needs to go into the Representation Independent section.
16:57:16 <drummond> ...but adding a note about @context should be in this section.
16:57:39 <justin_r> q+
16:57:39 <selfissued> q+
16:57:48 <drummond> burn: Resolution #4 is a refinement of what "ignore" means. So the text may be in different text.
16:57:54 <burn> ack TallTed
16:57:54 <Zakim> TallTed, you wanted to say Res#2 is clearly a text change. Res#4 is a conceptual change which might be applied to #2, but it's not clear what that change would be.
16:58:28 <drummond> TallTed: I believe that the explicit text change that was resolved should be applied as resolved. Then you can make another PR.
16:59:04 <burn> ack justin_r
16:59:04 <drummond> burn: At the F2F, we were making statements of intent.
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16:59:30 <dlongley> +1 to justin, can selfissued just add a note in a PR?
16:59:34 <brent> q+ to I added a suggestion
16:59:48 <drummond> justin_r: I believe the text in the PR reflects the intent. We can also add an informative note about @context.
16:59:54 <burn> ack selfissued
17:00:07 <drummond> burn: We did discuss that at the meeting.
17:00:15 <brent> q-
17:00:15 <burn> q+
17:00:49 <drummond> selfissued: We took 15 minutes to agree to add a Note. We need to add the note before merging 454.
17:01:01 <drummond> burn: Sorry for not watching the time.
17:01:03 <brent> I've added a suggestion
17:01:07 <brent> to the PR
17:01:30 <burn> q-
17:01:31 <drummond> ...Editors: we did agree to add an informative note into that section, so we need to do that.
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17:02:01 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:02:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/11/17-did-minutes.html ivan
17:02:12 <ivan> zakim, end meeting
17:02:12 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been burn, brent, TallTed, shigeya, ivan, rhiaro, wayne, justin_r, dlongley, drummond, markus_sabadello, jonathan_holt, dmitri, JoeAndrieu,
17:02:15 <Zakim> ... Eugeniu_Rusu, orie, selfissued, dpuc, adrian, agropper, kristina, by_caballero__juan, Wang_Haiguang
17:02:15 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:02:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/11/17-did-minutes.html Zakim
17:02:17 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, ivan; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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17:17:14 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
17:17:14 <RRSAgent> I see no action items