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<jeanne> Meeting: Silver Task Force & Community Group
<scribe> scribe: sajkaj
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rm The CfC for FPWD of WCAG 3.o is now in your email!
rm: Responses limited to Silver Task Force and Silver Community Group members
<CharlesHall> i did not eat robin’s minstrals
rm: Responses due no later than 14:00 (Boston Tiome) Friday 30 October--one week from today
<Fazio> yay!
ca: Virtual champaigne to all Editors all around!
<Chuck> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/decision-policy
<Lauriat> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Main_Page#Sub_Groups
sl: Looking for any subgroup reports?
js: XR began work on a strategy
white paper
... Thought it would be useful to provide an omnibus reference
of what we've looked at and whom we've worked with
st: Providing report on Error
subgroup
... worked on format; hoping to move to items in scope next
week
<Chuck> sajkaj: Substantial conformance met yesterday, good turnout, new folk. Had spirited conversation. Got a draft starting point proposal that we are trying to get into Google Doc
<Chuck> sajkaj: Jeanne, is there a place you want me to locate this and point to from wiki?
<Chuck> jeanne: If you give me ownership I'll put it where it goes.
<Chuck> sajkaj: Will email.
<Chuck> jeanne: I'll do the wiki.
<Chuck> sajkaj: Pleased to notice that you and I aren't the only ones tweaking content in wiki. That's a good sign.
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/Substantial_Conformance
<Chuck> shawn: Update from headings sub group?
js: Would like to talk about what
we should do with headings
... It's too sketchy still
... We've been calling it structured content, but we only have
headings so far
... asks for recruits to work on this
<Fazio> should it be more "information architecture"?
rm: suggesting we consider a subgroup of AGWG for structured content; it's basic, so a good way to transition into Silver work
df: sounds more like info architecture; is it?
rm: I was just thinking headings, landmarks, etc, and how to organize
js: we want to avoid really broad
guidelines
... too broad SC have been problematic
df: info arch is broad, but can be scoped more narrowly
<Zakim> Lauriat, you wanted to say: more of a way of ensuring that users can navigate an information architecture (among other things)
<Fazio> no argument here
sl: more a way to insure users
can navigate effectively
... providing "hand holds" within
sj: I like "hand holds"
sl: should be navigation across
multiple environs, eg. virtual reality, so not just info
arch
... suggest putting out a call for particpants
js: would be helpful to have some Silver veterans
<Lauriat> +1
js: we shouldn't just put newbies on the task to work from a guidance doc
sl: next maturity modeling ...
df: asked Jake to see how what
we're doing fits within what the EU is doing
... Turns out our system fits well within what they're doing in
their elaborated structure
... We got someone from the EU engaged
... Dutch government has created a tool to help
js: Please invite via CG; includes access and requisite IP signoffs
sl: Links to these would be interesting to look at
df: Jake will send -- hopefully
English, not Dutch!
... Will send to list
wf: accessibility statement generator is similar to W3C's
<Chuck> sajkaj: Eu has a statement that talks in terms of "substantial conformance", we are trying to find examples in the wild. If you know where that is...
<Chuck> sajkaj: We'd appreciate that. We are looking for more in the wild.
<kirkwood> can we put a link in to the WAI “generator”? that was referred to?
<Chuck> sajkaj: I think we had a survey during challenges doc, when use of the term was questioned, and that's turning out not to be true.
<Chuck> sajkaj: Looking for a wcag definition maybe.
<CharlesHall> Functional Needs are being added to XR Strategy Whitepaper Draft
mc: Funct Needs not met recently,
focus has been on the FPWD
... hope to resume soon
wf: funct needs are being identified also in the XR strategy draft
js: Notes work to evaluate our
scoring/testing/conformance model so we can tell how good it
is, or where it needs to improve
... Frances has begun spread-sheed tests with dummy pages
... Also looking for more testers
st: error subgroup needs to know timeline expectation for our work
js: roughtly, schedule is FPWD
sometime within the next month, then 4 weeks for public
comments
... That gives us two months for new content for the next
draft; but bbeginning January we'll have our hands full
processing comments
sl: thought we could ask other TF's to write additional content; as a test approach, and a way to engage wider participation
<Lauriat> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aCRXrtmnSSTso-6S_IO9GQ3AKTB4FYt9k92eT_1PWX4/edit
sl: Also a way to leverage TF
expertise
... eg. viewport rendering
... also COGA
... we need to be sure to test the process, and not so much
people's ability to write good content
<Chuck> sajkaj: If we are looking for experts, we may not get the content the best way we want it, but it might be close. Ends with good write up.
<Chuck> sajkaj: A more expert group would contribute, and we get the editorial on top of that.
sl: yes, having one of us helping editing as content is created can keep the experts focused
js: Does anyone know the status of low vision?
rm: we need reinvigorate. on the
list after fpwd
... we do have some leads
... we do believe we need their contributions
js: happy to help recruit
... Asks whether anyone from COGA might be recruitable?
rm: suggest emailing list to Lisa and me so we can discuss next COGA call
js: will do
... asks about the Mobile TF
... there's so much for mobile apps
... believe they should be interested
... perhaps they'd be tantalized because we can now do all
apps, not just hybrid apps
sl: think from here we can reach
out tf by tf
... REMINDER! Vote!
<CharlesHall> respond to email thread?
sl: Respond on CfC email thread
sl EOF
<Rachael> yes, please just reply all to the email with a +1 if you support or your objection if you do not.
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