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MF: How is it going?
... Anything else for the agenda?
... Last meeting we decided to move the time to Thursdays at
this time, every other Thursdays
... Doesn't seem to be an issue with the change, any
concerns?
... Glad it is working
... Moving from Bluejeans to Zoom, did anyone have any issues
connecting?
HR: I am very confortable with it
Jes: We are still doing work on
APG
... We are early stages of scoping work for the next ARIA-AT
test hareness
... Just trying to collect information
MF: Thank you for the update. Matt would have more information on the work with Bocoup
HR: I am a new member, is Bocoup creating all the test cases
<JoeHumbert> Zoom just stopped for me
MF: No, Bocoup is contracted with
the test harness and reporting results
... Matt is working with another company to help build test
authoring
... The community group can help out wherever you can
... Members can authoring tests
... I am the product owner for the automation, if you want to
help out contact me
... Matt is better to coordinate on test cases
BF: By automation prototype ...
MF: It is a prototype, it will
not be able to even do a single test
... The goal, is to test a single test, to automate that, drive
a screen reader and then can get results
BF: What screen reader?
MF: Toss up for NVDA or VoiceIver
HR: Not an accessibility checker, like an according, it clicks on some tabs and see if the correct things are spoken
MF: You could say, navigate to
this button and then see if the assertions for the button are
met
... Any other questions on that?
MF: Continuation of previous topic
JG: No, I will try to do before next meeting
MF: Leave it on the agenda for the next time
MF: We talked about this last
time
... Instead of duplicating assertions, we could just reference
them
... Matt thought this was a good idea, but no decisions have
been made
JG: It will make it more difficult for newbies to learn, but if there is going to be a compnay developing them, they will be familiar
HR: I am generally support it,
but concerned about the level of complexity
... Concerned about overhead to the work
MF: I will make a comment in the
issue
... Not sure how much work this is to implement, and not sure
how much efficiency it would add to authoring
JG: If there is going to be a tool, the tool could suggest assetions
MF: We need to have a tool
... Matt has looked into making a tool, but it was goign to be
complex
JG: There is alot of options with the keyboard commands
MF: Any other issues?
BF: Since we have one new person, can you give an overview of organizations
a/BF/RF/
MF: We have a wiki with some of this information
https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki
<rob-fentress> What Michael is working from: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Working-Mode
MF: A test is specifies assertions, with each assertion has a priority ...
https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Working-Mode
Reviewing definitions in the wiki page
<michael_fairchild> https://w3c.github.io/aria-at/tests/checkbox/test-01-navigate-to-unchecked-checkbox-reading.html?at=jaws
Reviewing the test runner
<Juliette_McShane> +`1
MF: I work at Deque, and I am
supporting the vision of Matt king
... Matt works for Facebook
... I was working on a similar project, but it was not
sustainable, this project can do it better
BF: I work for Virginia Tech, I am volunteering to test, I support best practices at VT, ....
JM: I am director of ..., recently joined the W3C, trying to figure out what working groups to see where are best fit iit is, since we are a service provider and focus on compliance
MF: Matt has secured funding to build the tests and the test harness, so we need people to actually run the test
<Jemma_> I have to go for another meeting. My name is Jaeun Jemma Ku. I am working for University of Illinois and help ARIA-APG as co-facilitator with Matt King.
JM Access to Online, history of the company, works with training prisoners in accessibility evaluation, so we have alot of people
HR: I am part of the IT
accessibility team at University of Washington, was at Illinois
and worked with Joe and Robert too
... My primary job is to make systems at Washington accessible,
working this for many years, and my students help too
Mikey: Help Hadi
JH: I am senior accessibility
specialist at Paciello Grpup, I proposed a community group
similar to this a few years ago, but this proposal is more
viable
... I want real world implementation information, what really
works
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