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18:53:49 <atsushi> zakim, clear agenda
18:53:49 <Zakim> agenda cleared
18:53:55 <atsushi> meeting: Immersive Web Community Group Teleconference
18:54:02 <atsushi> date: 18 Aug 2020
18:54:14 <atsushi> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-08-18-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
18:54:34 <atsushi> atsushi has changed the topic to: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/cg/2020-08-18-Immersive_Web_Community_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
18:54:55 <atsushi> agenda+ administrivia#125 FaceMesh Extraction Explainer [alcooper91]
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19:01:33 <cwilso> present+
19:01:48 <cwilso> zakim, who is here?
19:01:48 <Zakim> Present: Manishearth, cwilso, Leonard, ada, kip, bajones, cabanier, yonet, trevorfsmith, mounir, alexturn, klausw, dino
19:01:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see yonet, kip, alcooper, Brett, RRSAgent, atsushi, dom, rzr, Karen, sangwhan, trevorfsmith, surma, sheppy, Zakim, garykac, NellWaliczek, iank_, cwilso, flaki, mounir,
19:01:50 <Zakim> ... bertf, ada, Manishearth
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19:03:30 <cwilso> scribenick: cwilso
19:03:32 <Leonard> Alex:
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19:03:38 <atsushi> zakim, take up agendum 1
19:03:38 <Zakim> agendum 1. "administrivia#125 FaceMesh Extraction Explainer" taken up [from alcooper91 via atsushi]
19:03:42 <cabanier> present+
19:04:16 <cwilso> Alex: I've been working on a proposal for facemesh.  My current intent is to not integrate with WEbXR at the start - it's more for WEbRTC - but it might be something people want to integrate with WebXR, so I wanted to bring it up her.e
19:04:22 <cwilso> s/her.e/here
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19:04:56 <cwilso> Asyegul:  so you don't want this on WebXR repos, right, you just wanted to bring it up?
19:05:32 <cwilso> alcooper: yes.  I imagine it's something that people might want to reuse, but I wanted to look at it more broadly than just WebXR use cases.
19:05:45 <avadacatavra> q+
19:05:47 <cwilso> asyegul: Any other questions or comments?
19:06:13 <avadacatavra> a-
19:06:14 <cwilso> Diane: What are some of the privacy implications of face mesh?
19:06:14 <avadacatavra> q-
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19:06:37 <Brett> Would it do Head Tracking style XR in WebXR?
19:06:52 <yonet> ack nick
19:07:09 <cwilso> alcooper: there are already libraries that can do this integration; one you have the camera feed, you can already do this, so I don't imagine there is additional concern (unless/until we integrated into WebXR)
19:07:11 <alcooper> https://github.com/alcooper91/face-mesh
19:07:30 <cwilso> nick:??
19:07:46 <cwilso> alcooper: facemesh is something you'd have to request as part of getusermedia.
19:07:53 <yonet> ack Nick-8thWall
19:08:08 <cwilso> nick: is this additional API surface?
19:08:23 <cwilso> alcooper: similar to insertable streams, this is building on APIs that aren't exposed yet.
19:08:54 <cwilso> aysegul:  thanks for bringing this up Alex.  Anything else?
19:09:07 <cwilso> diane: I wanted to give a quick up date on the Mozilla situation.
19:09:59 <cwilso> ...FF Reality is going to be maintained, but not actively developed from here.  We will have a blog post going out shortly on this.  We plan to continue to participate in the standards (Kip and I will still be here).
19:10:18 <cwilso> aysegul: does this mean bug fixes as well, or just "it will still be out there"?
19:10:24 <Brett> @diane will it stay 'secure'?
19:10:36 <cwilso> diane: not sure yet.  It's getting rolled into Hubs team.
19:10:51 <cwilso> kip: you should see a ff reality 12 release.
19:11:07 <cwilso> diane: and of course I would hope we can get any security-critical bugs fixed.
19:11:24 <cwilso> kip: this is built on gecko view, and any fixes there should be inherited.
19:12:00 <cwilso> Aysegul: that's all, see you next week!
19:12:57 <cwilso> rrsagent, make minutes
19:12:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/08/18-immersive-web-minutes.html cwilso
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20:17:08 <atsushi> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2020/07/28-immersive-web-minutes.html
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20:19:01 <atsushi> i/diane: I wanted to give a quick up date on the Mozilla situation./topic: quick up date on the Mozilla situation/
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