Meeting minutes
<Ralph> previous 10-July
Webinar updates, comments on slides
<Ralph> current webinar slide set
Ralph: will someone walk us
through the slides?
… is that the best use of our time?
wendyreid: many of us have
seen the slides
… OK if people view on their own and send comments
Avneesh: the sessions are very small; if something needs to change please provide brief comments
<Ralph> Webinar
Ralph: we can't squeeze a
lot in the time we have
… we want half of the hour for discussion
… any presenters have issues?
Cristina: I didn't get the final version
Ralph: there's a link in IRC
George: that link didn't work
George: I've been going into
Zoom and doing a recording of my slides
… it does two things: you're getting practice at your
presentation
… I've done two or three takes, and then I've asked
Richard to edit the glitches
… it goes very smoothly
Ralph: the presenters met
yesterday
… Tzviya will be the MC
… we will have live captionists
… if you pre-record please let Tzviya know, as she
drives the slides
<Avneesh> I did run down today and my speech was 5 min and 9 sec. So, it looks that I will keep the time.
Cristina: how do you record?
George: I go into Zoom,
start recording, then start screen sharing and run the slides
… when it comes to your turn, it just starts playing
your recording
Avneesh: clever people know that you're not visible on the screen
Ralph: if presenters want to do this, please experiment ahead of time
George: might already be too late
wendyreid: the easier way is
to incorporate the recording in the slide block
… Daihei, were you going to do additional slides for
Japan, on top of what Cristina is doing?
… I haven't seen any slides from you, and the
captionist needs to see them
Daihei: I haven't come up
with them, but I am intending to review the slides here
… is there room for me to include one or two slides?
wendyreid: I would need them today because of the captionist
Daihei: could I just insert slides wherever I want?
wendyreid: send me the slides and I'll insert them
Ralph: we had 52 people for
Monday
… (ralph pauses dramatically)
… we have 56 now
George: have links been sent to participants?
Ralph: yes
Ralph: I'll send links to late registrants
liisamk: any value to send another notice?
Ralph: we could do that
… I'd want to strip out those who already registered
… lemme talk to Karen
<George> +1 to resend reminder
WG charter news
Ralph: we're doing OK on #
of members who responded
… more support, esp. from the pub industry, is
beneficial
dauwhe: We did get one
response that suggested changes
… I have submitted a PR to address those changes
Ralph: the director likes to see the group that authored the charter react to suggested changes
garth: looking at the
website, it says 30 answers received, but 29 visible
… is there some un-public vote?
Ralph: an AC member can choose to make their response non-visible except to the Team
TPAC Planning
Ralph: the reason this is on
the agenda
… we need to decide what meeting times we would like
to ask to be scheduled
… are we going to propose a breakout session?
… I presume that if the EPUB WG is chartered, it would
like to have its first meeting around the time of TPAC
… unless you tell me otherwise
… Mateus and Jeff might want the CG to meet?
… the schedule is being done a little differently
… we're encouraging each group to independently
schedule times on a wiki to help resolve conflicts
… the bigger challenge will be the ten hours of
breakout sessions
… over five days, with a lot of sessions trying to
squeeze into those slots
… do we want to propose breakouts?
mateus: you answered my Q
… it would be good to have a CG meeting
Ralph: each group can
schedule itself; the big challenge will be the breakout slots
… do we need a BG meeting during TPAC?
liisamk: we'll discuss on Monday
Ralph: a goal of tpac is to encourage groups to meet together, or for people to observe
Daihei: it's going to be
different from last year
… because of the f2f last year, many of the publishing
companies executives
… attended tpac
… it could be not a regular PBG but something special,
making it a special conference under tpac about publishing as a
whole
… I will discuss that on Monday with the PBG chairs
Ralph: almost anything can
fit in the context of TPAC
… the challenge will be times of day, given time zone
issues
Daihei: because it's once a year, easier to gain attention from special people
Ralph: I hope that's true
Ralph: any other thoughts on TPAC?
AOB
Ralph: anything else on your mind
wendyreid: I wanted to ask
the BG chairs
… we've been doing updates on the EPUB charter for the
last ten thousand weeks
… for the next couple of weeks, could we have some
time for audiobooks, since we're getting close to the end of the
charter
… I would love to hear from business group members on
that
garth: looks like the google
implementation of audiobook is going to be live in the next week or
two
… so if you want to practice on us, go ahead :)
Ralph: ok if that's in the public record?
garth: yes
liisamk: maybe garth can
talk about that at the next BG meeting
… and I can see if leslie wants to talk about her
efforts with coresource etc
… Mateus and Jeff, you asked about another co-chair,
someone to help with administrative work and maybe start a task
force
… I have found you someone
… I would like to put forward Alex Grover (?) and I'd
like him to start a task force on FXL+reflow
… we've talked about business cases in the BG
… Alex would be good and technical at building samples
<Daihei> +1 to Liisa/Alex for PCG
mateus: that's great. Thanks!
Ralph: that's wonderful!
liisamk: he's also been looking at the a11y task force stuff, and has been testing our a11y
Avneesh: he was on the last call
liisamk: I'll make introductions
George: my comment is back
about PBG announcement on charter
… it's always appropriate to include the ask about
assigning people to the working group
… there is a wide range of skills needed, it would be
good to get a wide range of people
Ralph: how many survey respondents said they would participate? A lot :)
mateus: I wanted to ask
wendyreid about audiobooks
… I assume this already happened, but is there any
role the CG could play to help transition the PWG into the PCG
wendyreid: I think we need a
maintenance WG; I haven't talked to Ivan yet
… but I would love for people to join the CG
… and incubate some audiobook features, like bitrate
switching
… audiobook folx should be everywhere
Ralph: a spec is never done
:)
… and the CG is a good place to talk about next steps
for a spec
mateus: I'd be happy to join a call about these issues
Ralph: I bet ivan has
already done something
… any time we close a WG, we should point participants
to another venue for discussion, in this case the CG
Bill_Kasdorf: I presume that work would be done in an audiobook task force, so you should create the task force now.
Ralph: that's part of what you were thinking, Mateus?
mateus: yes
<liisamk> +1 to task force for audiobook
Bill_Kasdorf: there are people in the CG who don't know about audiobooks
George: I heard talk about a
task force and specs
… there are lot of questions people have,
implementation issues, best practices, just building the knowledge
base in the community
… can that happen in the CG?
Ralph: yes
<Avneesh> question of George was about best practices for publishing in general (I think)
George: I think
George:
Ralph: there might be enough
interest for a tech task force working on the spec
… and a deployment task force for people who want to
use the spec
wendyreid: I want other people to write documentation
<George> I wanted to know where education and outreach would live.
Ralph: I heard great feedback from the Legible presentation at the BG this week
liisamk: that went well and
was interesting
… it helped with trying to find what else is out there
… we skated around business model questions
… they invited us to help them test, because it's not
released
… I want to know what they mean by that offer
… are they asking their competitors to help test?
Ralph: I'll check the
minutes
… we do need to be careful about talking about such
issues
zheng_xu: it's a good
direction to work on practical and current issue, and possibly move to
WG or if not create guidelines
… including for the Japanese market
… the content guidelines there are old
… I met with Daihei before
… we can extend direction about more rich content
… we have good input on starting task forces and CG
… I'll work with Mateus etc to get started as soon as
possible
Ralph: I have to do the renaming
Daihei: what Jeff Xu
mentioned, the EBPAJ guidelines issued a while ago, everyone is
talking about revising it
… there is some red tape...
… this is a good opportunity to push this
… cooperation with CG and Japan, with some
localization for Japan
… and Taiwan has translated these into Chinese
… I will work closely with zheng_xu and mateus to
introduce them to people here
Ralph: it will be good to share resources that already exist
Ralph: we mentioned that the
audiobook presentation for the EDRLab things, everyone liked the NNELS
presentation there
… they tweeted some announcements today
… we should invite NNELS to the BG to present
George: hello
Ralph: we guessed at your
question
… I don't know if the answer dave scribed answered
your question or some other question
George: it was just best practices, etc etc around audiobooks, is that where people go for answers?
wendyreid: yes
… there have been lots of requests for documentation
dauwhe: I just find it interesting that we have an industry where we do all the work as volunteers
<Bill_Kasdorf> plus we're PUBLISHING
dauwhe: as opposed to browser vendors where there's paid developer relations people
Ralph: I think many working
groups have an education and outreach component
… publishing isn't as unique as you implied ;)
Ralph: see y'all on Monday