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20:08:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
20:08:25 <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2020
20:08:33 <kcoyle> TOPIC: admin
20:08:36 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:08:42 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2020/04/07-dxwg-minutes
20:09:17 <kcoyle> proposed: accept minutes of previous meeting (04/14)
20:09:23 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:09:27 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2020/04/14-dxwg-minutes
20:09:41 <Caroline_> +1
20:09:48 <kcoyle> +1
20:09:48 <annette_g> +0 (not present)
20:10:42 <kcoyle> resolved: accept minutes of previous meeting (04/14)
20:10:49 <kcoyle> topic: DCAT
20:10:57 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.04.21
20:11:01 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:11:26 <kcoyle> Caroline_: there was a meeting of DCAT subgroup; another meeting next week; meeting every 2 weeks
20:11:32 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:11:42 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:12:13 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: yes, meeting every two weeks; discussed what are the main issues, like requirements not yet addressed
20:12:48 <kcoyle> ... also subsetting, versioning. starting to discuss on github
20:13:17 <kcoyle> Caroline_: on minutes, is there a paper being written by Riccardo?
20:13:47 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: yes, this is a side work, we will move on with paper but still discussing where to publish it
20:14:21 <kcoyle> ... will target different publics; should it be technical? or have a more high-level approach? to target a different audience
20:14:36 <kcoyle> ... yes, this is about DCAT version 2
20:15:22 <kcoyle> Caroline_: should we try to get more people to work on DCAT? is that a goal?
20:15:49 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: not sure; just discussed paper so perhaps, depending on shape paper takes
20:16:16 <kcoyle> ... haven't fully discussed this
20:16:23 <kcoyle> Caroline_: but DCAT in general?
20:16:55 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: yes, one issue is in the last call the only folks were the current editors; would be good to have people involved in other deliverables
20:17:07 <kcoyle> ... since not everyone attends all calls
20:18:41 <kcoyle> kcoyle: good to expand beyond group; larger community
20:19:00 <kcoyle> annette_g: US call to support FAIR in national labs
20:19:19 <annette_g> in particular, for AI
20:19:23 <kcoyle> ... added to discussion about scope
20:19:45 <kcoyle> annette_g: first step would be to gather use cases from that effort; experimental facilities (AI)
20:19:49 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:20:04 <kcoyle> ... some use cases come forward when writing proposals for this effort
20:20:42 <kcoyle> ... such as creating benchmarks; which could be reproducible. capture datasets and model, could be a nice bundle
20:20:49 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:21:14 <AndreaPerego> RDA FAIR Data Maturity Model WG: https://www.rd-alliance.org/groups/fair-data-maturity-model-wg
20:21:27 <AndreaPerego> And on Github: https://github.com/RDA-FAIR/FAIR-data-maturity-model-WG
20:21:33 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: on this specific topic; there is a group in the research alliance (link above)
20:22:07 <kcoyle> ... to make research data more shareable. trying to define criteria for assessing maturity level of data compared to FAIR
20:22:51 <kcoyle> ... this could be relevant for us. They will define a framework. Will be a form for open data to give information related to FAIR
20:23:05 <annette_g> s/research alliance/research data alliance
20:23:24 <kcoyle> ... an issue relating to FAIR, talking about metadata schemas related to FAIR, but this is difficult for metadata
20:23:48 <kcoyle> ... so they are working on this; not clear what makes a metadata schema compatible with FAIR
20:24:08 <kcoyle> ... Makx is in touch with this group; maybe he can report on progress
20:24:41 <kcoyle> Caroline_: could you write Makx an email?
20:24:45 <kcoyle> annette_g: I will do that
20:24:59 <kcoyle> action: annette_g to write an email to makx about RDA and FAIR
20:25:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-419 - Write an email to makx about rda and fair [on Annette Greiner - due 2020-04-28].
20:25:11 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:25:19 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:26:17 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: FAIR in relation to AI; one thing missing is whether datasets are "ready" for machine-learning - could DCAT address this?
20:26:40 <kcoyle> annette_g: Yes, anything that is relevant to AI work should be included
20:27:39 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: need to publish data about how it can be used for training; level of bias; compatibility to other sources
20:27:42 <Caroline_> q+
20:28:12 <Caroline_> http://fates.isti.cnr.it/index.php/program/
20:28:45 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:28:54 <kcoyle> Caroline_: yesterday had a meeting about this; first session was about bias and use of data; think about if DCAT can be used
20:29:09 <kcoyle> ... video is there and papers will be there soon
20:29:17 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:29:45 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: this workshop was by the organization that Riccardo works in (CNR)
20:30:30 <kcoyle> Caroline_: I was also part of that; what we have now is papers with some solutions proposed; maybe could use this for this work
20:31:05 <kcoyle> ... presentations are short, although some papers are long
20:32:15 <kcoyle> AndreaPerego: this institute is in Pisa, not in Genoa, but Riccardo will know how to get in touch with these people
20:33:08 <Caroline_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KuwkskuYaL60SAwsJGe_4gSRpGqlNrPh
20:34:15 <kcoyle> Topics: Conneg & Prof
20:34:18 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:34:31 <kcoyle> Caroline_: we don't have anyone on the call who can do this
20:34:51 <kcoyle> ... looking at open action items from last call... folks are not here
20:35:00 <AndreaPerego> s/Topics/topic/
20:35:04 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:35:16 <kcoyle> Caroline_: adjourn early?
20:35:26 <kcoyle> All: yes!
20:35:41 <kcoyle> Caroline_: adjourned!
20:35:56 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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