<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/April-7%2C-2020-Meeting
<siri> are we using same conference number to join call
<sarah_higley> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/tabbed-carousel-opt2/examples/carousel/carousel-2-tablist.html
<Jon_Gunderson> Sara: Updated to use checkboxes for display
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: Checking browser history does not change the checkboxes, but changes the history
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Should these be buttons or switches instead of checkboxes
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: They could be switches
<siri> can someone send me zoomlink :)
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: Either way
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: The checkboxes don't indicate what checking it means
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: For example auto-rotation on page load is ON/OFF
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: The second one might be called: ..
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: We can just update the checkbox descriptions to be more clear is fine with me
<Jon_Gunderson> JH: You need to add styling to make them look good
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I was not thinking of the styling
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Every idead is harder than you think
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Every idea is harder than you think
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: First option is captions displayed over image
<Jon_Gunderson> JG: Maybe we can have SH work on the word smithling
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: I can help with the wording
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I can go back and make some changes
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: What happens when you check a checkbox
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: The pages are reloaded....
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Include in the description include information on reload and if buttons are removed
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: These are awesome changes
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I made the defaults be the more accessible options, captions outside of slides and paused
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: Reduced motion does work now
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Add information about accessibility of user prefereneces on reduced motion
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I like the more accessible as default
<Jon_Gunderson> Jemma: What is reduced motion?
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: In windows it is in ease of access, the script now looks for that
<MarkMcCarthy> MarkMcCarthy: In Windows: Ease of Access, Vision, Display, "Show Animations in Windows"
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: It is in all operating systems
<Jemma> @media (prefers-reduced-motion: reduce) {
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: The user has set the option, software should not play animations
<Jemma> is this what Sarah did?
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: This is a separate branch from Jon's right?
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: Yes
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: Maybe use radio buttons instead of checkboxes for options
<MarkMcCarthy> MarkMcCarthy: In MacOS: System Preferences, Accessibility, Display, Check "Reduce Motion"
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: The third does override the second, they are not radio buttons
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: It is currently a little confusing
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: If auto rotation is disabled, having it intially pauses that button will not be checked
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: If the third one is checked the second one should be disabled
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: JG are you ok will SH merging the changes
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: SH if you do a pull request, it is easier to undue
<sarah_higley> https://codepen.io/smhigley/full/gObMVzv
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I put it in code pen, beacuse it is easier to work with
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I have updated type ahead behavior
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: There is a time out of one second
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: If you type ahead with the same letter, it will cycle through options, if diffeent letters it will search on optinos names
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: It works differently based on ho fast you type
<Jon_Gunderson> LOST MY ZOOM Connection!
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I am changing my middle name to combobox
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: In select box if I type slowly I get a different behavior, what will happen
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: It will be like you never typed
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: It will now start to look for something with the new letter
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: Will this be a problem for slow typists
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: If you type a B it will ...
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: It is not working for me in Code Pen
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: If you type to slow it will ...
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: If you type B three times it should go to the third item starting with a B
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: There is only one function for both behaviors
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: On windows the timeout is like 500 milliseconds
<Jon_Gunderson> Siri: Why OK, what if someone is typing really slow..
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I don't think it will be a barrier, is advantage, is mimicking other native OS controls
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: The code pen is broken on this feature
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: If you type two slow you just stay on banna
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: We can work on the funnies
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: If you type B and wait, you just want to see then next character is...
<Jon_Gunderson> BG: What if you have something with multiple characters
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Windows handles that too, you need to be within the time out
<Jon_Gunderson> BG: I have a similar pattern hat looks for string matches first
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: We still have the value issue
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I am trying to get it in ARIA Issue 1225
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I am talking to JC tomorrow
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: I hope it gets into ARIA 1.2
<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1225
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: It is a little independent of this example, but hopefully 1225 will get resolved
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: In 1225 the value comes from content
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I will leave it as text content
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: 1.2 closed 6 months ago, any change in implementations is too late
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: If there are implementations, then we can leave it to 1.3
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: There is a difference, even if we have two implementations, we are not recommending a practice that is supported by the spec
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I should have put the requirement in the original proposal last fall at TPAC
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: The process we test stuff and then we can resolve it
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: We need to hammer through 1.2 issues and get this done
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: All the other 1.2 issues are being delayed by new issue
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: We need to make sure everything else gets closed down
<Jon_Gunderson> JN: We need to get this closed down
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: It would be good to get AL in on the issue 1225
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: I think this is really important to get into this version, so there are not future changes to combobox
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I want to get combobox done
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: I think this is the last little thing for custom select
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: We had a dialog combobox that was select only
<Jon_Gunderson> CC: It is a common dialogy like thing
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: We have a ton of those too
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: SH do you have a plan to move from Code Pen to a PR?
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: Should there be a timeout for multiple letters the same at the same time
<Jon_Gunderson> MK: Therre should be a timeout so you could find things that start with BB, but if just want B things it should not matter about typing speed
<Jon_Gunderson> SH: I should have everything I need
<scribe> scribe: carmacleod
<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1017?
<Jon_Gunderson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1362
JG: What is the status of DatePicker? Are we just waiting for reviews?
<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1362
<Jon_Gunderson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1017
MK: For 1362, only change is
getting rid of the buttons.
... Also contrast. Yes, we need to review that one. Can someone
copy in a review checklist?
... Needs editorial review, and visual review.
JK: I can add the checklist.
MK: Thanks. Just thinking about priority; where does this fit - there's also combobox date picker - Jon, which should go first?
JG: They're very similar, so it would be easiest to review them both at once.
JK: The review checklist is added, just needs names.
CM: Jon is it ok if I commit some of the smaller suggestions?
<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1017
JG: Yeah, that would be ok
CM: Ok, will do - it will resolve those and make it easier to see other suggestions
JK: Siri, can you review the visual design of 1017
Siri: Yes, I can do that
MK: Also for 1062 at the same
time, because they are very similar
... Sarah, in addition to code review, can you do the test
review on 1362/1017?
SH: Ok, please keep Simon on it as well, for whoever gets to it first
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