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<irfan> scribe: PaulG
<paul_grenier> irfan: email exchange about documents cleared up confusion
<paul_grenier> irfan: In APA call last week there were questions, this week we have Mark so we can decide how to proceed.
<paul_grenier> janina: we're pursuing separate paths from CSS-speech, you (tink) mentioned different use cases.
<paul_grenier> janina: understanding how the documents differ needs to be understood.
<paul_grenier> mhakkinen: that seems accurate.
<paul_grenier> tink: the republish by CSS WG is correcting the note status.
<paul_grenier> tink: there's a wider audience for pronunciation than screen reader users.
<paul_grenier> tink: there's potential for overlap of SSML and CSS-speech.
<paul_grenier> tink: where the use cases diverge, are those beyond that, like audio experience like browser speak functionality. For example, emphasis on a header and less on publication date.
<paul_grenier_> I was kicked out of the chat
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tink: CSS speech seems to have great benefits globally for a site stylesheet where SSML has great detail capability in detailed examples.
mhakkinen: left-right channel capability seems to be lost or missing from CSS spec.
tink: it was lost due to concerns over how it would work with mono headsets or unilateral hearing loss.
mhakkinen: we can't get the old
examples to work.
... for spacial aspects of audio presentation, webxr could also
use these capabilties.
tink: audio description for characters could take on more artistic aspects.
mhakkinen: SSML will most likely be used at the lowest level for driving syth anyway
irfan: as editor can you [tink] what's the roadmap for joining wicg
tink: the pronunciation proposal is very good. The recent events should not change anything.
janina: we're complimentary domains, not competing domains--that's the "elevator" speech (lift for tink) :)
<mhakkinen> +1 to Leonie's suggestion
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janina: we want to convey pronunciation isn't just for accessibility without losing the accessibility benefits.
SteveNoble: so many technologies use SSML, do we want to get those vendors to give feedback?
tink: that's an excellent idea.
janina: we will want wide review
upon publication of the first working draft
... as well as horizontal review
<irfan> paul: instead of high contrast over stylesheet for browser speech or built in screen readers.
janina: high contrast settings
get picked up by browsers, if the OS could describe audio
frequencies for HOH folks.
... it could improve hearing for them, customized for the
individual.
... digital assistant devices should also respond to such
settings
irfan: welcome our excellent new team member
irfan: we will move to zoom soon
paul_grenier: I will create a github ticket for the "Grendel" example.
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