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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

27 Feb 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, atsushi, xfq, fsasaki, Bert, richard, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison, Bert

Contents


<addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference

<addison> scribenick: addison

<agendabot> clear agenda

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-856?

<trackbot> action-856 -- Richard Ishida to Check the time planner in the meeting page to ensure it is correct for 2020 -- due 2020-02-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/856

action-857?

<trackbot> action-857 -- Fuqiao Xue to File a bug against safari regarding quotes and line-breaking in chinese -- due 2020-02-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/857

xfq: was trying to file bug, but safari working as expected
... so didn't file

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/245

xfq: can comment on above github issue

richard: will check again

close action-857

<trackbot> Closed action-857.

action-858?

<trackbot> action-858 -- Addison Phillips to Remind wg to review string-meta and make comments -- due 2020-02-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/858

close action-858

<trackbot> Closed action-858.

Info Share

welcome back felix!

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/exploratory/inline_notes/int-ruby?lang=ja&fontSize=60&width=400&rubyPosition=over&rubyAlign=space-around&rubyMerge=separate&height=400&writing-mode=vertical-rl&text=%3Cruby%3E%3Crb%20lang%3D%22ja%22%3E%E6%97%A5%3C%2Frb%3E%3Crt%3E%E3%81%AB%3C%2Frt%3E%3Crb%20lang%3D%22ja%22%3E%E6%9C%AC%3C%2Frb%3E%3Crt%3E%E3%81%BB%E3%82%93%3C%2Frt%3E%3Crb%20lang%3D%22ja%22%3E%E8%AA%9E%3C%2Frb%3E%3Crt%3E%E3%81%94%3C%2Frt%3E%3C%2Fruby%3E

richard: new interactive test page
... and a test results page somewhere

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/int-inline-notes-annotations

richard: did also update the tests for the i18n test suite

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/css-ruby

richard: added a few extra tests, particularly for chinese
... used to test japanese and chinese at same time
... now the tests are separate
... on above page if you mouse over *
... you'll see the notes
... in the tooltip

xfq: previously I saw under chinese a small title called "selection", what is that?

richard: probably a mistake, forgot to change. thanks for pointing out

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

<JcK> yes here too

close WCAG issues?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Feb/0013.html

<Bert> scribenick: Bert

r12a: WCAG issues need to be handled quickly, because their repo is read-only now. Best if we can just close our issues.

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/523

r12a: I think all can indeed be closed. But let's go through them quickly.

addison: What would we do if we are not satisfied with any of them?

r12a: Raise them in a new repo, maybe referring to the old thread.

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/522

addison: This one seemed closed with an OK resolution.
... Next one is ^^^
... Also seems resolved in our favor.

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/484

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/480

addison: 484 also looks good. Can close.

r12a: Both Fuqiao and Atsushi agreed to close 480.

addison: A little hesitant. They studied some languages. Might not hold across all languages.

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/478

r12a: Seems 480 is good enough. Closing it.
... 478 is similar.

<addison> ACTION: richard: double-check that github picked up closing of 5 WCAG i18n issues

<trackbot> Created ACTION-859 - Double-check that github picked up closing of 5 wcag i18n issues [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-03-05].

addison: OK, let's close 478.

pending tracker issues

<addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Feb/0012.html

<r12a> css-fonts

<r12a> • Don't ignore non-system fonts

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/796

r12a: I still need to read up on privacy, what 796 seems to be related to.
... Better to postpone this.

<addison> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-fonts-4/#preinstalled-and-user-installed-fonts

<r12a> vc-data-model

<r12a> • Example uses a timestamp for what should just be a (floating) date value

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/650

<r12a> • Have fields for locale-specific information (names, addresses, etc.) been checked?

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/640

r12a: ^^^ are a couple of related threads.

addison: 650 accepted. I will send it.

<addison> ACTION: addison: submit issue 650 to vc-data-model

<trackbot> Created ACTION-860 - Submit issue 650 to vc-data-model [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-03-05].

Bert: Small issue, though.

addison: Yes, editorial.
... I will also send 640.

<r12a> mst-content-hint

<r12a> • highly detailed text in video content

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/599

addison: Label "Needs review" or just "pending"?

r12a: Who has been reviewing media-related stuff recently?
... I'll remove the "needs review" label.

<addison> (updated my action item to mention additional issues)

r12a: If issues do no come in via Philippe's system, which puts on "pending", we don't need the "pending" label on them.

addison: Seems reasonable.

Bert: Not sure I understand what issues this applies to.

r12a: Original use of pending was if we review a spec and find a possible issue.

<atsushi> +1 for not adding by PLH's system

r12a: But Philippe's system finds issues for us in other repos and creates an issue in ours with "pending" on it.
... We already get notified of those, and it can build a long list of pending issues.
... Atsushi's weekly list of tracker issues can be replaced by the automatic digest.
... It is generated the day before our telcon.

<addison> ACTION: addison: add retrieving the weekly digest of external issues and reviewing it to the agenda

<trackbot> Created ACTION-861 - Add retrieving the weekly digest of external issues and reviewing it to the agenda [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-03-05].

r12a: Philippe's tool doesn't yet inform us if issues get closed by a WG. Hopefully soon.

<r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2020JanMar/0059.html

String-Meta Review

addison: I didn't see any comments, but hopefully people did have time to review it.

r12a: I started. I'll make some suggestions for editorial changes.
... Don't have ideas yet for larger changes.

addison: I have been doing some stuff internally and the document is sometimes useful and sometimes not.
... E.g., when to put in direction.

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: add retrieving the weekly digest of external issues and reviewing it to the agenda
[NEW] ACTION: addison: submit issue 650 to vc-data-model
[NEW] ACTION: richard: double-check that github picked up closing of 5 WCAG i18n issues
 

Summary of Resolutions

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