<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: stevelee_
Lisa: the minute log page is not updated
<Jennie> +1
is it felt to be important
<Jennie> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/
steve: roy says it is manual and he is happy to do. I Suggest we start a new list on wiki
<JustineP> Agree, Jennie
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/minutes
jennie: the page https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/ has a link to a very out of date page
michael: been meaning to automate it and would benefit other groups so will treat this as a reminder
<Jennie> Thank you!
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/#communication
Lisa: can do on wiki until Roy is back or Michael done
<Fazio> I did mine
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G9SJSiAT-SYDVNxBfwOe7A6VPqsmX4Ua0QT7-NrfQTA/edit#heading=h.uf4tmgrjcioj
<kirkwood> i put some comments/reviewed
<kirkwood> yes me too
steve has not review ed personas for missing patterns
<kirkwood> I can do more today too
steve: have done for mental health
lisa: lets cover mental healt
hlather in meeting and maybe do another pass
... Rachael and I have reviewed personas. Wee could do with
someone (professional) to do the Mental health one fo
<Jennie> My apologies - ran out of time
lisa: i did a brief review on policy from justine
lisa: rachael is going to do an editorial pass and will fix spelling mistakes etc
Rachael: there are open questions on the login pattern, should we disucss now?
Jennie: didn't update as it looked like someone else had.
steve: there are comments in the document - should they be dealth wit hby the group
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17win0Z-d_wVdMHCZqHG2N4ExdhknaU6DpJmABR-F-58/edit
rachael: I think so as I can only do simple things in editorial pass
lisa: make a table of contents
for the personas document so easier to add quotes.
... also added 3 example quotes
<Jennie> https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/wcag/new-in-21/
<Rachael> I used to love shopping but I so often run into people wearing perfume or fragrances near the checkouts that I've given up shopping in stores and only shop online now.
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/wcag/new-in-21/#about-the-personas-quotes
<LisaSeemanKest> My address is so complicated. There's lots of numbers and long words. It's hard to type it all without making mistakes. Works well: I love websites that can automatically fill it all in for me. Then I don't have to work so hard to get the numbers and spelling right. Note: This works because the fi
<kirkwood> yes think that is good re: problem/solution
<Jennie> I like the lead in part too
<Rachael> sample quote (different topic): I used to love shopping but I so often run into people wearing perfume or fragrances near the checkouts that I've given up shopping in stores and only shop online now.
rachael: I also added example but think Jennies are better, here it is
agneda
agenda
<Fazio> I had a conference call with Intel’s accessibility team yesterday. They reiterated how helpful the WCAG 2.1 personas were
<LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2020Jan/0051.html
<Fazio> I’d just they that’s a good benchmark for us to use
<LisaSeemanKest> fantastic
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DPtCqWHjrhj3QZ4afsqzmWDd-zMSf39RsMqSpR2QGCg/edit#heading=h.ej41yvbs80dk
lisa: reviews agenda, are most import important controls and new patterns?
<kirkwood> no answer ;)
all: agreed to drop Silver
<Rachael> This is the current SC text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DPtCqWHjrhj3QZ4afsqzmWDd-zMSf39RsMqSpR2QGCg/edit
<Rachael> For controls needed to progress or complete a process, at least one of the following is true: The controls are persistently visible A mechanism is available to make the controls persistently visible The control can be programmatically determined as being important except when: The equivalent control is persistent elsewhere on the same page The controls overlap media content
rachael: has had many names
<Fazio> How soon do we need the research
rachael: are stuck need research - that controls that only appear with hover may be there to reduce interface problems?
lisa: can w add an exception for when there are more than 3? That there instructions
<Fazio> +1
lisa: in the patterns we have criteria from important controls
<LisaSeemanKest> The most important tasks and features are:
<LisaSeemanKest> The three tasks the users want to perform
<LisaSeemanKest> The three most common tasks (from the users perspective)
<LisaSeemanKest> Tasks that affect the users health or wellbeing
<LisaSeemanKest> Usage data can normally identify the most common tasks. Focus groups and surveys are also useful for identifying what the users want
<Fazio> I’m chairing some COGA research for UNESCO
<LisaSeemanKest> cool!
<Fazio> but it’ll take till September tho
jennie: I was think as they discussed that if app has 2 ways, toolbars and ribbon, say there are more uses cases so not sure if usecase are required more than "research"
<Fazio> I was going to send out the call for papers to our TF to see if there was a focus we would like to nick down
rachael: use cases will help support but may have wanted more research given 1 month turn around use cases and exception may be most apropriated
<Jennie> ack "essential"
<LisaSeemanKest> ack "
<kirkwood> can we simply say (visual) notification that there are hidden controls?
david: are doing some UNESCO research but will not land till Sept.
<kirkwood> I’d be available Monday too
lisa: lets set up a meeting on Monday to cover this issue
<Jennie> Sorry, I'm only available Monday between 11 and 3 central time
<LisaSeemanKest> ack ”essential”
david: intel collegue would be interested in reviewing our work. Is that OK?
Steve: SCs go to wide review as part of process. other stuff is public (eg on git hub) but might be too early.
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DPtCqWHjrhj3QZ4afsqzmWDd-zMSf39RsMqSpR2QGCg/edit#heading=h.ej41yvbs80dk
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0QpMa2XKB4UIEJKjL98y7Dw7vcbtC41skRmrexGs6M/edit#
<Fazio> Audio?
lisa: we will add notes on whether for audio, video or content as a pass through the patterns
<kirkwood> its gallons!
<Jennie> Unit can also be different based on the topic.
<JustineP> I like that we've addressed security with that revision.
<Jennie> Can we add that scoping statement to this?
jennie: scoping of types of login my help those working in security understand better
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