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19:50:47 <PWinstanley> chair: PWinstanley
19:50:51 <PWinstanley> present+
19:51:43 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
19:51:47 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.11.05
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20:00:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:00:57 <ncar> present+
20:01:05 <ncar> present+ roba
20:01:08 <roba> present+
20:01:14 <ncar> present+ SimonCox
20:05:27 <ncar> chair: PWinstanley
20:05:34 <ncar> scribe: ncar
20:05:39 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
20:05:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
20:05:59 <ncar> agenda:
20:06:05 <ncar> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.08.06
20:06:12 <ncar> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.08.06
20:07:54 <PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/dcat-tr-to-pr/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr
20:09:38 <PWinstanley> proposed: accept https://www.w3.org/2019/10/29-dxwg-minutes
20:09:48 <roba> +1
20:09:53 <SimonCox> 0 wasn't there
20:09:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> +0 ( i was not there)
20:10:00 <ncar> 0 wasn't there
20:11:13 <PWinstanley> +1
20:11:25 <PWinstanley> resolved: accept https://www.w3.org/2019/10/29-dxwg-minutes
20:12:12 <ncar> topic: transition request
20:12:33 <ncar> SimonCox: I've approved and merged it
20:15:52 <SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1159/files
20:16:21 <ncar> roba: I am approving
20:16:34 <PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:17:00 <ncar> PWinstanley: we must acknowledge outcome of DCAT to PR poll
20:17:10 <PWinstanley> proposed: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:17:19 <ncar> +1
20:17:40 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:17:45 <SimonCox> +1
20:17:46 <PWinstanley> +1
20:17:54 <roba> +1
20:18:04 <PWinstanley> resolveded: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:12 <PWinstanley> resolved: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:17 <ncar> PWinstanley: we have 15-0 in favour of publication in the poll
20:18:40 <ncar> resolved: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:47 <PWinstanley> is everyone content with the transition request doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:19:15 <SimonCox> +1
20:19:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:19:29 <PWinstanley> +1
20:19:40 <ncar> +1
20:19:52 <PWinstanley> proposed:  content with the transition doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:20:04 <PWinstanley> resolved:  content with the transition doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:20:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:20:37 <ncar> PWinstanley: I will sent results to Philipe for publication
20:20:38 <PWinstanley> ack riccardoAlbertoni
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20:21:03 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: we have feedback from Antoine and I think 2 issues are open
20:21:15 <ncar> PWinstanley: ensure they are tagged for "future work"
20:21:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Adcat+no%3Amilestone
20:21:53 <ncar> PWinstanley: discussion on the doc and outstanding issues is allowed to continue
20:22:19 <PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:22:53 <ncar> topic: Re-charter
20:23:28 <ncar> PWinstanley: last week we made request to Advisory Committee for a recharter, response from them expected in a few days
20:23:47 <ncar> topic: Conneg
20:24:27 <ncar> PWinstanley: recharter means things will "roll along" - we can keep on with work on Rec trac for the doc
20:24:55 <ncar> PWinstanley: possibility is to put out a next Public Working Draft within this current charter
20:25:59 <ncar> PWinstanley: Re-charter means a seamless operating continuation
20:26:34 <ncar> PWinstanley: PROF work is in the same vein but varied- it's not in the charter so needs continued WG charter
20:26:42 <ncar> q+
20:26:55 <PWinstanley> ack ncar
20:26:57 <ncar> PWinstanley: we should deal with this when we have a larger WG attendance
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20:27:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, make log public
20:27:20 <PWinstanley> ncar: notes on connef - it seems appropriate to put out a 3rd PWD
20:27:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
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20:27:44 <AndreaPerego> present+
20:27:46 <PWinstanley> ... there is a meeting scheduled later today, so this subgroup will propose for this soon
20:28:57 <PWinstanley> ... On the matter of recent discussions on conneg there is non-normative material linking PROF and Conneg and this might form the material for garnering continued support from the WG for PROF
20:29:53 <ncar> PWinstanley: we've been doing lots of work on GitHub, should we consider splitting our giant repo into individual repos?
20:29:54 <SimonCox> Topic: use of GitHub
20:30:30 <ncar> PWinstanley: this might keep things cleaner but there is a cost-  forking, moving issues etc
20:30:47 <ncar> present+ AndreaPerego
20:31:10 <roba> q+
20:31:13 <ncar> PWinstanley: please think about GitHub splitting
20:31:19 <DaveBrowning> q+
20:32:08 <ncar> PWinstanley: we can discuss ways to operate at a later meeting which involves both GitHub work and meeting schedules etc
20:32:46 <ncar> PWinstanley: we can re-assess the meeting times to see what times suite active members
20:32:58 <PWinstanley> ack DaveBrowning
20:33:09 <PWinstanley> ack roba
20:34:08 <ncar> roba: cleaning up GitHub is necessary but we need to enforce a better dicipline with Issues as some Issues proved impossible for us to close due to open-ended nature of discussions in them
20:34:28 <ncar> roba: we are using gitHub as a record of discussion, not an Issue tracker
20:34:53 <ncar> PWinstanley: these are the discussions we need to have so we can move forward more efficiently
20:35:14 <ncar> DaveBrowning: I agree with roba's view- more clarity in use dicipline would be useful
20:35:48 <SimonCox> We really need a repo per product! its chaos otherwise
20:35:50 <ncar> DaveBrowning: discussion a month ago was about how could Use Cases / Requirements be split between deliverables
20:36:11 <SimonCox> Have a separate repo for use-cases if necessary
20:36:51 <ncar> DaveBrowning: we need a story about how to manage the UCR, I don't think it should be in a separate repo from other products
20:37:59 <ncar> PWinstanley: early in the recharter we do have to consolidate & take a new view on the UCR doc and link UCs to multiple strands of work to show how multiple products address them
20:38:45 <ncar> PWinstanley: we could also change UCR into a wiki doc (not a repo) and look back to those from GitHub Issues
20:39:07 <ncar> PWinstanley: we have a range of tools but are using GitHub (Issues) for everything
20:39:32 <ncar> q+
20:39:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:39:39 <PWinstanley> ack ncar
20:39:47 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:39:49 <roba> q+
20:39:58 <PWinstanley> ncar: for people who won't be attending the conneg call
20:40:17 <PWinstanley> ... there arae 2.5 implementations with published outcomes and positive feedback
20:40:50 <PWinstanley> ... there will be an example implementation that delivers DCAT v1 and v2
20:40:59 <PWinstanley> ... code bases are in Python and PHP
20:41:05 <PWinstanley> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:41:34 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: can we have a resolution to move Issues to Future Work since we can't deal with feedback now
20:42:00 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: for Issues in general, to indicate we are not ignoring feedback but can't deal with it right now
20:42:07 <PWinstanley> porposed:  that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:18 <ncar> +1
20:42:21 <roba> +1
20:42:23 <PWinstanley> +1
20:42:24 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:42:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:42:38 <SimonCox> +1
20:42:40 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:42:41 <ncar> resolved: that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:42 <PWinstanley> proposed:  that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:59 <PWinstanley> ack AndreaPerego
20:43:35 <ncar> AndreaPerego: q about transition request. Previous one added as Issue with questions but this is a doc. What is the process?
20:43:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, make log public
20:43:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:43:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni
20:43:58 <ncar> PWinstanley: are there things you (Andrea) we need to do?
20:44:27 <ncar> AndreaPerego: Philpe/W3C will likely provide feedback
20:44:27 <roba> Can we close all old pending review actions: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview  (NB All action owners are here now!)
20:44:39 <AndreaPerego> s/porposed/proposed/
20:44:39 <PWinstanley> q?
20:44:40 <ncar> PWinstanley: I will have to raise an issue for it for W3C processing anyway
20:44:43 <PWinstanley> ack roba
20:44:46 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
20:44:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
20:45:20 <PWinstanley> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
20:45:51 <ncar> PWinstanley: we need to identify Actions that need closing, then close
20:46:12 <ncar> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview
20:46:34 <DaveBrowning> 361 is long done
20:46:38 <ncar> proposed: close all Actions marked as "pending review" in the Action tracker
20:46:48 <roba> +1
20:46:53 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:47:40 <ncar> Action 89, 168, 169, 177, 197, 277, 311, 339, 346, 361, 376
20:47:40 <trackbot> Error finding '89,'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:48:36 <PWinstanley> these issues are all stale, supervened by circumstances, or complete but not documented as such
20:48:40 <PWinstanley> +1
20:48:52 <SimonCox> +1
20:48:56 <ncar> +1
20:49:00 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:49:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:49:16 <SimonCox> scribe: SimonCox
20:49:16 <PWinstanley> resolved: close all Actions marked as "pending review" in the Action tracker
20:49:26 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
20:49:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
20:49:35 <SimonCox> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
20:49:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html SimonCox
20:50:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> Thanks you all...
20:50:10 <SimonCox> Thanks to volunteers, Meeting closed 07:49
20:50:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/Thanks you all../Thank you all..
20:52:20 <SimonCox> Bye
20:52:37 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, bye bye
20:52:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> see you bye
20:52:42 <PWinstanley> bye
20:52:45 <roba> Bye
20:52:53 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
20:52:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
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20:55:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> karen...  you are one hour late ;)
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21:02:30 <riccardoAlbertoni> I see people joining to irc now mmm i guess we get confused by the time change;) anyway,  we have already had the meeting see the minutes at https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html
21:02:43 <Makx> present+ Makx
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21:06:43 <alejandra> regrets+ alejandra
21:07:43 <alejandra> thanks riccardoAlbertoni - yes, got the time wrong
21:08:57 <Makx> bye