IRC log of dxwg on 2019-11-05

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chair: PWinstanley
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present+
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meeting: DXWG Plenary
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.11.05
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present+
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present+
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present+ roba
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present+
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present+ SimonCox
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chair: PWinstanley
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scribe: ncar
20:05:39 [PWinstanley]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
20:05:59 [ncar]
agenda:
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https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.08.06
20:06:12 [ncar]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.08.06
20:07:54 [PWinstanley]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/dcat-tr-to-pr/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr
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proposed: accept https://www.w3.org/2019/10/29-dxwg-minutes
20:09:48 [roba]
+1
20:09:53 [SimonCox]
0 wasn't there
20:09:58 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+0 ( i was not there)
20:10:00 [ncar]
0 wasn't there
20:11:13 [PWinstanley]
+1
20:11:25 [PWinstanley]
resolved: accept https://www.w3.org/2019/10/29-dxwg-minutes
20:12:12 [ncar]
topic: transition request
20:12:33 [ncar]
SimonCox: I've approved and merged it
20:15:52 [SimonCox]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1159/files
20:16:21 [ncar]
roba: I am approving
20:16:34 [PWinstanley]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:17:00 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we must acknowledge outcome of DCAT to PR poll
20:17:10 [PWinstanley]
proposed: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:17:19 [ncar]
+1
20:17:40 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:17:45 [SimonCox]
+1
20:17:46 [PWinstanley]
+1
20:17:54 [roba]
+1
20:18:04 [PWinstanley]
resolveded: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:12 [PWinstanley]
resolved: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:17 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we have 15-0 in favour of publication in the poll
20:18:40 [ncar]
resolved: ratify the poll result https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/dcat-to-pr/results
20:18:47 [PWinstanley]
is everyone content with the transition request doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:19:15 [SimonCox]
+1
20:19:26 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:19:29 [PWinstanley]
+1
20:19:40 [ncar]
+1
20:19:52 [PWinstanley]
proposed: content with the transition doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:20:04 [PWinstanley]
resolved: content with the transition doc https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:20:33 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+q
20:20:37 [ncar]
PWinstanley: I will sent results to Philipe for publication
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present+
20:21:03 [ncar]
riccardoAlbertoni: we have feedback from Antoine and I think 2 issues are open
20:21:15 [ncar]
PWinstanley: ensure they are tagged for "future work"
20:21:26 [riccardoAlbertoni]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Adcat+no%3Amilestone
20:21:53 [ncar]
PWinstanley: discussion on the doc and outstanding issues is allowed to continue
20:22:19 [PWinstanley]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/dcat/dcat-tr-to-pr.md
20:22:53 [ncar]
topic: Re-charter
20:23:28 [ncar]
PWinstanley: last week we made request to Advisory Committee for a recharter, response from them expected in a few days
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topic: Conneg
20:24:27 [ncar]
PWinstanley: recharter means things will "roll along" - we can keep on with work on Rec trac for the doc
20:24:55 [ncar]
PWinstanley: possibility is to put out a next Public Working Draft within this current charter
20:25:59 [ncar]
PWinstanley: Re-charter means a seamless operating continuation
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PWinstanley: PROF work is in the same vein but varied- it's not in the charter so needs continued WG charter
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q+
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ack ncar
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PWinstanley: we should deal with this when we have a larger WG attendance
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ncar: notes on connef - it seems appropriate to put out a 3rd PWD
20:27:28 [riccardoAlbertoni]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni
20:27:44 [AndreaPerego]
present+
20:27:46 [PWinstanley]
... there is a meeting scheduled later today, so this subgroup will propose for this soon
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... On the matter of recent discussions on conneg there is non-normative material linking PROF and Conneg and this might form the material for garnering continued support from the WG for PROF
20:29:53 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we've been doing lots of work on GitHub, should we consider splitting our giant repo into individual repos?
20:29:54 [SimonCox]
Topic: use of GitHub
20:30:30 [ncar]
PWinstanley: this might keep things cleaner but there is a cost- forking, moving issues etc
20:30:47 [ncar]
present+ AndreaPerego
20:31:10 [roba]
q+
20:31:13 [ncar]
PWinstanley: please think about GitHub splitting
20:31:19 [DaveBrowning]
q+
20:32:08 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we can discuss ways to operate at a later meeting which involves both GitHub work and meeting schedules etc
20:32:46 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we can re-assess the meeting times to see what times suite active members
20:32:58 [PWinstanley]
ack DaveBrowning
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ack roba
20:34:08 [ncar]
roba: cleaning up GitHub is necessary but we need to enforce a better dicipline with Issues as some Issues proved impossible for us to close due to open-ended nature of discussions in them
20:34:28 [ncar]
roba: we are using gitHub as a record of discussion, not an Issue tracker
20:34:53 [ncar]
PWinstanley: these are the discussions we need to have so we can move forward more efficiently
20:35:14 [ncar]
DaveBrowning: I agree with roba's view- more clarity in use dicipline would be useful
20:35:48 [SimonCox]
We really need a repo per product! its chaos otherwise
20:35:50 [ncar]
DaveBrowning: discussion a month ago was about how could Use Cases / Requirements be split between deliverables
20:36:11 [SimonCox]
Have a separate repo for use-cases if necessary
20:36:51 [ncar]
DaveBrowning: we need a story about how to manage the UCR, I don't think it should be in a separate repo from other products
20:37:59 [ncar]
PWinstanley: early in the recharter we do have to consolidate & take a new view on the UCR doc and link UCs to multiple strands of work to show how multiple products address them
20:38:45 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we could also change UCR into a wiki doc (not a repo) and look back to those from GitHub Issues
20:39:07 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we have a range of tools but are using GitHub (Issues) for everything
20:39:32 [ncar]
q+
20:39:34 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+q
20:39:39 [PWinstanley]
ack ncar
20:39:47 [AndreaPerego]
q+
20:39:49 [roba]
q+
20:39:58 [PWinstanley]
ncar: for people who won't be attending the conneg call
20:40:17 [PWinstanley]
... there arae 2.5 implementations with published outcomes and positive feedback
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... there will be an example implementation that delivers DCAT v1 and v2
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... code bases are in Python and PHP
20:41:05 [PWinstanley]
ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:41:34 [ncar]
riccardoAlbertoni: can we have a resolution to move Issues to Future Work since we can't deal with feedback now
20:42:00 [ncar]
riccardoAlbertoni: for Issues in general, to indicate we are not ignoring feedback but can't deal with it right now
20:42:07 [PWinstanley]
porposed: that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:18 [ncar]
+1
20:42:21 [roba]
+1
20:42:23 [PWinstanley]
+1
20:42:24 [DaveBrowning]
+1
20:42:34 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:42:38 [SimonCox]
+1
20:42:40 [AndreaPerego]
+1
20:42:41 [ncar]
resolved: that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:42 [PWinstanley]
proposed: that all open issues in the DCAT discussion are marked as 'future work' and dealt with in the coming months
20:42:59 [PWinstanley]
ack AndreaPerego
20:43:35 [ncar]
AndreaPerego: q about transition request. Previous one added as Issue with questions but this is a doc. What is the process?
20:43:37 [riccardoAlbertoni]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni
20:43:58 [ncar]
PWinstanley: are there things you (Andrea) we need to do?
20:44:27 [ncar]
AndreaPerego: Philpe/W3C will likely provide feedback
20:44:27 [roba]
Can we close all old pending review actions: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview (NB All action owners are here now!)
20:44:39 [AndreaPerego]
s/porposed/proposed/
20:44:39 [PWinstanley]
q?
20:44:40 [ncar]
PWinstanley: I will have to raise an issue for it for W3C processing anyway
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ack roba
20:44:46 [DaveBrowning]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
20:45:20 [PWinstanley]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
20:45:51 [ncar]
PWinstanley: we need to identify Actions that need closing, then close
20:46:12 [ncar]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview
20:46:34 [DaveBrowning]
361 is long done
20:46:38 [ncar]
proposed: close all Actions marked as "pending review" in the Action tracker
20:46:48 [roba]
+1
20:46:53 [DaveBrowning]
+1
20:47:40 [ncar]
Action 89, 168, 169, 177, 197, 277, 311, 339, 346, 361, 376
20:47:40 [trackbot]
Error finding '89,'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:48:36 [PWinstanley]
these issues are all stale, supervened by circumstances, or complete but not documented as such
20:48:40 [PWinstanley]
+1
20:48:52 [SimonCox]
+1
20:48:56 [ncar]
+1
20:49:00 [AndreaPerego]
+1
20:49:06 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:49:16 [SimonCox]
scribe: SimonCox
20:49:16 [PWinstanley]
resolved: close all Actions marked as "pending review" in the Action tracker
20:49:26 [DaveBrowning]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
20:49:35 [SimonCox]
rrsagent, draft minutes v2
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html SimonCox
20:50:07 [riccardoAlbertoni]
Thanks you all...
20:50:10 [SimonCox]
Thanks to volunteers, Meeting closed 07:49
20:50:28 [riccardoAlbertoni]
s/Thanks you all../Thank you all..
20:52:20 [SimonCox]
Bye
20:52:37 [AndreaPerego]
Thanks, bye bye
20:52:42 [riccardoAlbertoni]
see you bye
20:52:42 [PWinstanley]
bye
20:52:45 [roba]
Bye
20:52:53 [PWinstanley]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
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karen... you are one hour late ;)
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21:02:30 [riccardoAlbertoni]
I see people joining to irc now mmm i guess we get confused by the time change;) anyway, we have already had the meeting see the minutes at https://www.w3.org/2019/11/05-dxwg-minutes.html
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present+ Makx
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regrets+ alejandra
21:07:43 [alejandra]
thanks riccardoAlbertoni - yes, got the time wrong
21:08:57 [Makx]
bye