<kaz> ACTION: kaz to create a wiki page for WoT-Marketing TF
<scribe> scribenick: dsr
Sebastian introduces the aims of the Marketing task force
McCool: in the short term we need to sort out organisational details
e.g. to decide where the pages are and to identifiy a wiki page for this task force
Sebastian: yes, indeed.
one thing is the web page, and the second is the wikipedia page
Sebastian: we need to appoint someone to take the lead for the web page
McCool: the landing page for WoT should have the shortest URL
We should clean up out of data stuff
Does the curent wikipedia page talk about the old idea for WoT?
Sebastian: yes, and the history stops in 2014
McCool: so yes it is stale
Sebastian: Ege has agreed to work on the wikipedia page
<kaz> Marketing repo
Kaz: we should first think about the logistics for this task force, e.g. I’ve already created a marketing repo on GitHub as above
<inserted> kaz: we should consider how to work on the topics before starting the concrete discussions
McCool: we could certainly use the issue track on GitHub
The internal wiki page is handy for meeting agendas
What time would be good to invite Naomi?
Kaz: this time conflicts with the W3C comms telecon
McCool: let’s make a doodle poll to set up a joint call
Kaz: yes
She attended the Osaka meeting and says she is happy to help us
McCool: let’s keep this time slot for now
Sebastian: what help can she offer us?
Kaz: we could ask her to act as liaison with the W3C Comms & Marketing folks
McCool: one of the things to discuss is the plan for autogenerating IG and WG pages
<kaz> Dave: there are plans for automatic generation pages like the ones of IETF
<kaz> ... but would avoid confusion due to that plans
<kaz> McCool: automatic generation for WG, IG, CG?
<kaz> ... but we still need manually built entry point page as well
It would be timely for us to provide feedback to PLH for the auto generated pages and try to minimise confusion for people coming to WoT
McCool: we definitely need a landing page for people new to WoT
Kaz: we would still need manually generated content to describe the relationships between the IG and WG
our landing point should point to intro pages for the IG and WG, not directly to the auto generated pages
Kaz: we can raise issues with the marketing staff initiative
<kaz> WoT Landing page
Dave: we should invite someone from the team working on autogenerated pages to give us more information and answer our questions.
<Zakim> dape, you wanted to auto-generation is fine.. but we might need some "good" looking pages also..
<dape> IG page could simlpy forward to https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/
Daniel: we should include navigation cues for where people are
McCool: autogeneration is for consistency across groups
we should focus in the short term on keeping our pages up to date
later on we can work on the graphics and styling
Daniel: if we start from autogenerated pages we will be stuck
Kaz: I have been working with PLH on the auto generation of pages, but suggest that in this call we focus on what we need in the short term
McCool: okay, let’s start with collecting issues on GitHub
we have some really obvious short term actions to clean up
<kaz> WoT landing page
Dave: the /WoT/ page is a regular HTML page that we can update
Sebastian: Matthias made a proposal 2 years back, can anyone remember why it was rejected
Daniel: it was based upon some other website, not sure why it was rejected
Sebastian: I like the shared style
McCool: it wasn’t rejected, more it didn’t get the support needed
we should re-explore that with the W3C MarCom
<kaz> https://www.w3.org/WoT
Kaz: we need to clarify our needs
<dape> idea borrowed from https://w3c.github.io/web-roadmaps/media/
McCool: we need to insist a clean up to make the page simpler
Kaz: my point is do we want to use the design sebastian pointed to for the WoT landing page?
Sebastian: it is nice and clear for newcomers
the design isn’t critical, it is more about being a nice overview and easy to find out more
<kaz> Dave: separately from the design, how to fit within W3C, how to find the information?
who is the target audience and what are they looking for and what do we want to tell them
McCool: we should update the landing page this week with the current design
and then we should work with MarCom on the longer term plan
<dape> https://w3c.github.io/web-roadmaps/media/
Dape: the media group are also unhappy about the wordpress page model
Kaz: the page above looks nice but please note that it is proposed by Francois but not confirmed to be used for the MEIG page or the Media landing page
Sebastian: we have to rely on the W3C to help us
<kaz> WG page
Dave: I am happy to update the current pages this week if we can gather what needs to be done
kaz summarises the plan
McCool: let’s decide some actions
1. let’s start a doodle poll for a joint call with MarCom
2. Ege and propose content for the Wikipedia page for review by us
3. Dave can update the /WoT page this week for us to review
The /WoT/ page when redesigned becomes out landing page
McCool: the IG and WG page need links to the landing page and a brief explanation
Dave: I see this task force as responsible for driving regular, topical updates
McCool: the IG page should indicate it is a sub-page under the landing page
Kaz: please note that we should avoid certain words, e.g. “Activity”
Dave: using activity in lower case may be okay
Kaz: we could collectively work on improved wording
I strongly suggest we continue this discussion as GitHub issues
Dave: I will include a link to https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing so people can find it
<kaz> wot-marketing repo as the starting point to raise issues
Sebastian: we can then work on a plan for what we really want in the redesign
Kaz: I encourage sebastian to make an issue and link to design idea pages
sebastian should have admin rights for the repo
currently he doesn’t have push access
(now fixed)
<kaz> [adjourned]