<McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_2019
<scribe> scribenick: dsr
McCool: I have been talking to the venue host in Singapore and they have space, but 4 round tables, so I have asked them for alternatives
I would like to have book it on the Intel budget if the group agrees
The other logistical thing is the time for the chairs call. I suggest that we switch the hour immediately prior to this call
<mjkoster> https://github.com/t2trg/wishi/wiki
<mjkoster> there's no agenda posted yet
One of needs to go to the Friday call in respect to the workshop
sebastian: how will the workshop be structured, can we propose some topics?
McCool: I would like to talk about
discovery, for instance
... we could also raise the whole management thing
mjkoster: we could ask them to take responsibility to work on the XXX vocabulary
sebastian: +1 on myside for a coap vocab
mjkoster: restful actions and events is an interesting topic
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention IG Charter review (by Oct 11)
<kaz> AC review for WoT IG proposed Charter (Member-only)
McCool: we have time to work on the detail list of workshop topic we want to discuss
Kaz reminds us to chase our respective AC Reps as a matter of urgency - see above email for a link to the Review
mjkoster: I will respond on behalf of Samsung
McCool: currently we only have a
quarter of the responses we need to get the charter approved
... please review the Fukuoka F2F minutes and we will approve them
in the next call
McCool: we have various things for the Marketing task force to work on, and hence we should go ahead and create the task force and arrange for a wiki page and regular webex call
asks people who are interested to attend the Marketing TF call on Mondays
<kaz> (Kaz will ask Naomi about her availability for the marketing call.)
sebastian: what is the time of the call?
McCool: 8am EST, 1pm UK, 2pm Germany, 9pm Korea and Japan.
We do have the time zone change chaos coming up …
Kaz: late October for USA, and 2 weeks later for Europe
<inserted> [5am Pacific, 8am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm EU, 9pm Japan (till Oct 27)]
McCool: our calls are tied to Boston (EST), right?
Kaz: yes
McCool: anything else [no]
We met with several groups during TPAC: Decentralized Identifiers, Edge Computing, Privacy and JSON-LD
McCool: I am looking after Privacy and Edge Computing.
JSON-LD Victor
Who is interested in liaising with DID WG?
dezell_: I am given that I am a member of that WG
McCool: it would be good to get an invited presentation on their main objectives
Kaz: what about the media and entertainment IG, we spoke about a joint call on December 3rd
McCool: yes, also we want to get someone from the Accessibility IG to join our group
Kaz: possibly Josh from the W3C staff
<mjkoster> (sorry, have to drop off now)
McCool: please add your presentations from TPAC to this directory
<McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_2019
When reviewing the minutes missing presentations will be marked TBD
Certain people felt that WoT WG should be taking a more normative approach, and that the CR should incorporate this
Our current charter extension runs until December 2019, the last date for a CR submission is 3rd week in Octobe
I sent an email to the Privacy IG seeking agreement on a timeslot for joint work
We need to work on a strawman privacy section rather than having the guidelines spread throughout the spec
The Security TF needs to propose this new wording
McCool: I can’t personally make the next Security TF call on Monday
We should move the call to Tuesday instead
We need someone from the Privacy IG to work with us actively rather than wait for a review at the end
let’s create a doodle poll for a call next week
let’s share this with the Privacy IG
McCool: I seem to remember Tuesday 7am EST as our first suggestion
Kaz: I will create the poll for you
McCool: let’s pick a time for next week now and use the poll for subsequent calls
<taki> previous doodle for security
Kaz: I will also create a webex for the telecon
sebastian: we need a reference example that we can learn from when writing our own text
Kaz: this is the first occasion that the PING IG have asked for a normative section, so that’s why I think we needed to talk with PLH and Ralph
Ralph was okay with our proposed direction
McCool: we need to make protecting the TD mandatory
There are cases where you don’t want to provide the URI for a TD, but sometimes a temporary URI would be acceptable
Kaz: we need to focus on satisfying the W3C Director and moving the spec forward
McCool: there’s a big discussion within W3C on the appropriate role of privacy, and we’re kind of a test case for that
right now we have mostly informative statements, some of which we can make normative
making TD ID’s optional is more contensious
Dave: could we ask Sam to represent us and help find a way forward?
McCool: The person who was most vocal in the TPAC meeting was Tom
We probably want a W3C Member person not a staff person
McCool: everyone needs to read this and be ready to ask questions next week
we don’t have adequate time today
Ben: there is an email on the IG list that introduces the CG’s aims
<inserted> email thread on the Web Thing Protocol CG on the WoT IG list
<benfrancis> Yes, that thread.
McCool: We may want to adjust the timeline given the delays for the CR
If you have suggestions for the charter, please follow the process I outlined
Does anyone have an objection to a WG Charter call next week on Thursday
I think a single meeting should be sufficient to wrap up the charter
<kaz> [thursday: 4am Pacific, 7am Eeastern, noon UK, 1pm EU, 8pm Japan is the current Charter slot]
McCool asks kaz to set up a doodle poll and ensure that Michael Lagally is included
Let’s look for a variety of times on Thursday
Kaz: I can do that, but let’s not forget the need for a Discovery TF slot
McCool: the Discovery TF is lower priority but could take the same slot in subsequent weeks
The scripting discussion is likely to be deferred until 2 weeks from now
Zoltan: what should we do in the meantime?
McCool: we need to discuss where it fits into our charter, who should we collaborate with? should we have a management API, etc.
I want to work on a better template for use cases and requirements
this would allow us to better justify the scripting work
I would be happy to have a private call with zkis if that would help in the meantime
we are out of time for today’s call? Any other business?
Kaz: just got a response from PING Chair. PING IG’s next call is on Oct 3
McCool: we should prepare the ground in the meantime
Ben: I provided some feedback on the charter a while back and am seeking a response
<kaz> [Kaz will generate 3 doodle polls: WG Charter, Security and Discovery]
<kaz> [adjourned]