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13:03:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference
13:03:25 <trackbot> Date: 19 September 2019
13:03:39 <maryjom> chair: Mary_Jo_Mueller
13:04:26 <maryjom> agenda+ What format should rules be proposed (HTML, doc, markdown, other?)
13:04:41 <maryjom> agenda+ How should proposals be submitted? (pull request, email, other?)
13:04:53 <maryjom> agenda+ How do you attach assets (video, pdf, other files)
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13:05:05 <maryjom> agenda+ Should we have a template for submission?
13:05:19 <maryjom> agenda+ Go over "Page has a title" rule review survey results
13:05:52 <shadi> scribe: shadi
13:05:53 <trevor> present+
13:05:57 <maryjom> present+
13:05:59 <shadi> present+
13:06:00 <kathyeng> present+
13:06:31 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:06:31 <Zakim> agendum 1. "What format should rules be proposed (HTML, doc, markdown, other?)" taken up [from maryjom]
13:06:51 <shadi> MJM: community group uses markdown
13:07:01 <shadi> ...but potentially barrier to others?
13:07:21 <shadi> present+ Jie
13:07:24 <shadi> present+ Joe
13:08:15 <shadi> ...EOWG uses a form to make it easier
13:08:39 <shadi> ...that involves programming
13:08:57 <shadi> KE: like the idea of providing a template
13:09:08 <shadi> ...not sure it needs to be a form but that would be easier
13:10:07 <shadi> TB: is markdown a barrier because of the syntax or for validation issues?
13:10:15 <shadi> MJM: syntax mostly
13:11:00 <shadi> KE: think many people are intimidated by GitHub
13:13:24 <shadi> SAZ: strongly recommend to reuse the same markdown as the CG, as the basis
13:13:42 <shadi> ...(1) it has been tested and a lot of thought went into it
13:14:05 <shadi> ...(2) the CG is probably the primary group to contribute rules at the start
13:14:36 <shadi> ...(3) we may be able to reuse scripts and functionality from the CG
13:15:32 <shadi> ...may be able to reuse the script from EOWG to have a form that translates entries into that markdown for those not comfortable with markdown
13:15:56 <shadi> MJM: yes, script created markdown as an issue in GitHub
13:16:25 <shadi> SAZ: can get in touch with Eric on that script
13:18:00 <shadi> KE: doc is difficult?
13:18:29 <shadi> SAZ: would need someone to translate that into markdown, HTML, or such
13:19:02 <shadi> ...or a script inside the doc
13:19:31 <shadi> KE: understand we need to use GitHub but agree need to "hide" it as much as possible
13:20:26 <shadi> TB: maybe a small script that can parse doc files
13:20:57 <shadi> SAZ: something you can do?
13:21:20 <shadi> TB: definitely can parse doc using Python
13:21:30 <shadi> ...not sure about the pull request or such
13:27:37 <shadi> SAZ: will find out about the script and send out the information
13:27:51 <shadi> ...seems we should be able to have a web form at least
13:28:11 <shadi> ...if we are lucky, maybe also a doc parsing script
13:28:31 <shadi> ...also may be able to re-use documentation from the CG
13:31:48 <maryjom> https://www.w3.org/WAI/policies/submission/
13:32:07 <maryjom> That link is the submission form for accessibility laws and policies.
13:32:25 <shadi> MJM: expecting issues and discussion for each rule
13:32:47 <shadi> SAZ: think rule providers will be re-submitting rules
13:33:23 <shadi> ...that is, think less active development in this group
13:33:50 <shadi> ...trying to keep development outside (eg. community group or vendor etc.)
13:38:16 <shadi> Topic: Round of introduction
13:38:31 <shadi> JC: Joe Croning, work for Amazon
13:38:50 <shadi> ...working on internal tools
13:38:58 <shadi> ...relevant group for me
13:39:18 <shadi> MJM: standards program manager for IBM
13:39:30 <shadi> ...have internal tools too
13:39:42 <shadi> KE: work for US Access Board
13:40:07 <shadi> ...develop of Trusted Tester
13:41:15 <shadi> TB: work with MITRE
13:42:19 <shadi> ...more on the developer side but do some testing
13:42:28 <shadi> SAZ: W3C staff contact for this group
13:42:36 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:42:36 <Zakim> agendum 2. "How should proposals be submitted? (pull request, email, other?)" taken up [from maryjom]
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13:43:51 <shadi> MJM: mailing list we can use?
13:44:08 <shadi> SAZ: easy to setup but probably want as much automation as possible
13:44:11 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:44:11 <Zakim> agendum 3. "How do you attach assets (video, pdf, other files)" taken up [from maryjom]
13:46:36 <shadi> MJM: can we just have things uploaded, or do they need to be checked (eg. for virsus etc.)?
13:47:00 <shadi> JC: check extensions and avoid .exe, .zip, etc.
13:47:18 <shadi> s/JC/TB
13:49:15 <shadi> SAZ: maybe can split and focus on HTML with subset of assets (eg. images, audio, video, etc.)
13:51:08 <shadi> ...opening up to all formats could get quite complex
13:54:55 <shadi> ...rules with other types of formats would need to go through a different route
13:55:40 <shadi> https://github.com/w3c/wai-policies-prototype/blob/master/_policies/submission.php
13:59:13 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:59:13 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Should we have a template for submission?" taken up [from maryjom]
13:59:28 <shadi> MJM: already discussed, somewhat
13:59:31 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:59:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, shadi
13:59:40 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 4
13:59:40 <Zakim> agendum 4, Should we have a template for submission?, closed
13:59:41 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
13:59:41 <Zakim> 5. Go over "Page has a title" rule review survey results [from maryjom]
13:59:42 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:59:43 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Go over "Page has a title" rule review survey results" taken up [from maryjom]
13:59:57 <shadi> MJM: typo
14:00:01 <shadi> ...editorial change
14:00:10 <shadi> ...but otherwise seems ready to go
14:01:16 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:01:16 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:01:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been trevor, maryjom, shadi, kathyeng, Jie, Joe
14:01:24 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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14:01:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:01:25 <RRSAgent> I see no action items