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12:18:05 <Dan_B> trackbot, start meeting
12:18:37 <Dan_B> trackbot, start meeting
12:23:48 <Dan_B> agenda+ scribe
12:24:08 <Dan_B> agenda+ Welcome New Members
12:24:47 <Dan_B> agenda+ Approve Minutes From Last Meeting
12:25:56 <Dan_B> agenda+ Dan Barrett and Jason White to speak at IsLand Conference. Questions you wish them to ask
12:26:34 <Dan_B> agenda+ Continue Discussion of Use Cases
12:27:17 <Dan_B> agenda+ Next meeting proposed for October 24th
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14:53:50 <George> meeting: Chemistry for the Web and Publishing
14:54:25 <George> Date: 19 September 2019
14:59:38 <Dan_B> present+
15:01:04 <George> present+
15:02:41 <Dan_B> trackbot, start meeting
15:04:02 <Dan_B> chair: Dan_B
15:04:04 <jasonjgw> agenda+
15:04:50 <jasonjgw> present+
15:05:02 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
15:05:02 <Zakim> agendum 1. "scribe" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:06:12 <George> scribe: George
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15:06:47 <franco> present+
15:07:07 <George> zakim, take up next
15:07:07 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Welcome New Members" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:08:03 <George> present+ Ashley
15:08:44 <George> Present+ Eleanor
15:09:04 <George> present+ Elaine
15:09:14 <George> zakim, take up next
15:09:14 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Approve Minutes From Last Meeting" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:10:09 <George> minutes approved.
15:10:17 <George> zakim, take up next
15:10:17 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Dan Barrett and Jason White to speak at IsLand Conference. Questions you wish them to ask" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:10:59 <George> DB: I will be talking about this group.
15:12:00 <George> JW: I am giving a presentation about MathML and the addition of semantics and also adding how to differenciate math content from chem. I will have hand outs.
15:12:30 <George> There will be no news for the experts, so more basic.
15:12:58 <George> DB: Cary runs the conference
15:13:25 <George> Reach out to Jason and Dan at any time about thoughts.
15:14:20 <George> GK: what is the current best practice.
15:15:32 <George> JW:One of the options is to have parallel semantic and presentation MathML. Use ARIA to disembaquate.
15:16:30 <George> VS: With MathJax, I use huristics to figure out that this is Chemistry versus math.
15:17:21 <George> let them know that they can still use LaTex, and If you go to the conference
15:18:00 <George> MathJax fundamentally understands LaTex.
15:20:06 <George> Elanore we will put in the image, which is not great.
15:20:30 <George> Zakim, take up next
15:20:30 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Continue Discussion of Use Cases" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:21:03 <George> Where did we leave off?
15:21:51 <George> CS:Three dementional models.
15:22:16 <George> I went to a conference and met with MollyMods.
15:22:29 <George> They do not represent bonds.
15:23:16 <George> They have an App where you take a picture and it patern matches it with an online database.
15:23:34 <George> DB: That does not sound possible.
15:24:24 <George> CS: if you use ChemDraw and take  advantage of the database, they can do interesting things.
15:24:42 <George> At the conference the tech people were not there, so I could not get much.
15:25:36 <George> VS: On some online databases, you can send your mol files and get information back, including references to a 3D library.
15:28:47 <George> Ashley: I have read about Seelis where you can take a picture and it can return something that can then be presented by vibration. I wonder if something like this could be modified for chemistry.
15:29:40 <George> DB: I wonder how this would work with haptic output.
15:30:04 <George> CS: I am trying to compare what is available and what needs to be done.
15:30:32 <George> Text-to-Speech is an interesting approach.
15:31:29 <George> If we had a database, how could we make it more effective to produce a tactile, sh ask with swelling paper or a tiger embosser.
15:31:47 <George> GK: What about imageshare?
15:32:40 <George> Does a database of Chemistry already exists.
15:33:17 <George> VS: We have the software to do it. We do not have a database of these items.
15:35:17 <Dan_B> Cary : volker are you saying you can take a jmol or regular mol file and turn that into an SVG?
15:35:54 <Dan_B> Volker: Yes, it can pick up the identifier of your favorite molecule and put it into our identifer and render an SVG.
15:37:22 <George> DB: Is JMol open source.
15:37:37 <George> Also JSMol
15:37:52 <George> JSMol you can run on a website.
15:38:11 <George> VS: JSMol is the useful one.
15:39:00 <George> VS: if you have a mol file with 3D coordinagtes, it can render it directly.
15:39:30 <George> /say VS: if you have a mol file with 3D coordinagtes, it can render it directly.
15:39:54 <George> /say /say VS: if you have a mol file with 3D coordinagtes, it can render it directly.
15:41:36 <George> CS: The point is to identify gaps.
15:41:57 <George> There is a gap and how do webridge the gap.
15:42:19 <George> The wideness of the gap is not as wide as we thought.
15:42:32 <George> VS seems to have a lot of the solutions.
15:42:56 <George> VS: I recall that some folks were looking at funding.
15:43:12 <George> The funding discussion has not moved forward.
15:43:59 <George> DB: We at HM would love to use what VS has done to render the more complex materials in our books. How can we make that happen?
15:44:56 <George> /say DB: We at HM would love to use what VS has done to render the more complex materials in our books. How can we make that happen?. It is a service that is available for sale.
15:46:26 <George> Action: George to send out the survey results of developers.
15:47:39 <George> /say Action: George to send out the survey results of developers.
15:50:13 <George> A discussion of how the software renders complex or simple molecules.
15:51:01 <George> We are good at recognition, but when you get annotations, we have not developed that yet.
15:57:15 <George> To premature for a CSUN presentation.Action: VS and CS will look at a submission for CSUN.
15:57:37 <George> zakim, take up next item
15:57:37 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Next meeting proposed for October 24th" taken up [from Dan_B]
15:57:40 <franco> Action: VS and CS will look at a submission for CSUN.
16:00:26 <George> Decision to have next call on the 24th.
16:00:54 <George> Action:George to send out a calendar invite.
16:02:35 <George> rrsagent, make log public
16:03:25 <George> zakim, bye
16:03:25 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Dan_B, George, jasonjgw, franco, Ashley, Eleanor, Elaine
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16:03:59 <George> rrsagent, draft the minutes
16:03:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/19-chem-web-pub-minutes.html George