IRC log of wot-pf on 2019-09-18
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- I see no action items
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- Meeting: WoT PlugFest at TPAC 2019
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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- chair: McCool
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- mm: presentation plus demo
- 04:32:17 [azaroth]
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- present+ Rob_Sanderson
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- ... walk through scenarios
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- ... we're looking at PlugFest to see interoperability
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- present+
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- present+ Gregg_Kellogg
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- kaz: please join the IRC at #wot-pf and also "present+" you name
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- mm: (goes through the slides)
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- present+ Gregg_Kellogg
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- ... [W3C Web of Things]
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura
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- present+ Hiroki_Endo
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- present+ Michael_McCool
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- present+
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- present+ Masa Mashita
- 04:34:20 [tksuzuki]
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- mm: we're middle of rechartering the WG
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- present+ JohnRochford
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- present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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- present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 04:34:40 [kaz]
- ... will have 2-day sessions to discuss the plan
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- ... [W3C Web of Things - Building Blocks]
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- present+ Takahisa_Suzuki
- 04:35:01 [kaz]
- ... building blocks here
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- ... TD is general metadata based on JSON-LD
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- ... [Published CRs]
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- ... (Thing Description example on the right side)
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- ... [PlugFest picture]
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- ... actually several things here
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- ... several scenarios working together
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- preset+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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- ... devices provided by different vendors
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- ... the basic idea is describing what the device does
- 04:37:07 [kaz]
- ... devices can be provided in various ways
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- ... [PlugFest Devices]
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- ... end point devices as sensors/actuators
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- ... devices in a homenetwork here
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- present +Sebastian_Kaebisch
- 04:38:00 [kaz]
- ... you may create a proxy for proper security
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- ... Fujitsu has a proxy system here
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- ... Intel as well
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- ... Mozilla provides gateway mechanism
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- ... light switches from different vendors
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- ... possibly could be cloud services
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- ... this time NHK provides a TV set including the Hybridcast technology
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- ... Panasonic provides a lot of things
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- ... some of the are here in Fukuoka locally
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- ... and some others are remote
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- ... much more devices could be included
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- ... Oracle provides cloud simulators
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- ... Siemens also has a simulator
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- ... TUM provides bunch of sensor devices
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- ... [Scenario 1]
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- ... different scenarios here
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- ... two scenarios
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- ... one is about smart home
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- ... smart building is something like a hotel
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- ... integrate those together
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- ... authentication problem is interesting
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- ... enabling accessibility is also an important/interesting point for the scenario
- 04:43:00 [kaz]
- ... maybe you have a door bell and synchronized with a flash
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- ... we have speech synthesizer as well
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- ... also smart storage battery
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- ... [another photo]
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- ... Fujitsu's devices (and Mozilla gateway)
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- ... door bell, buzzer and flash
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- ... motion sensor as well
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- ... you can use a gateway for zigbee devices
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- ... Fujitsu box here is a proxy
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- ... also Google home device can be connected
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- ... interesting to have a local proxy as a hub rather than going out to a cloud service
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- ... [Scenario 2]
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- ... Industrial scenario
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- ... different kind of requirements for authentication and security
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- ... one use case here
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- ... functional safety application
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- ... you want to get alarm
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- ... when people go to wrong places
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- ... Oracle simulator image
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- ... on the right screen
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- ... simulating HVAC system and fest plant
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- ... good for IoT training
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- ... many industrial controls are expected
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- ... has Thing Descriptions included
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- ... [Siemens screen]
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- ... car charging service
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- dp: buildings representing smart buildings
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- ... power consumption is detected
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- ... also on the left side electric power charger
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- ... the devices have different interface for each
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- mm: for smart grid, there are various interfaces
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- ... we can see energy bi-directional
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- ... house to car vs car to house
- 04:51:06 [kaz]
- ... very interesting/important question
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- ... ecoG, Siemens subsidiary, working on the mechanism
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- ... natural thing to happen
- 04:52:00 [kaz]
- ... car charging stand is kind of like gas stand
- 04:52:22 [kaz]
- ... could be collocated with convenience stores
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- ... could have distributed power management system
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- ... [NHK Hybridcast Integration]
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- ... [picture as well]
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- endo: our demo describes Hybridcast system
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- ... working with the WoT framework
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- ... broadcasting content can transfer events as a trigger for that purpose
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- ... we use "node-wot" as the basis for the interface
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- ... the orange application here on the slide catches the event from the broadcasting content
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- ... and handle the external devices
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- mm: [NHK TV content]
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- endo: application data on the right side
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- ... start/stop a robot cleaner
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- mm: broadcast content includes signal to kick the application
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 04:56:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
- 04:56:26 [inamori_]
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- ... we have an informative Note on protocol binding
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- ... [Orchestration]
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- ... next issue is orchestration
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- ... currently have two ways
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- ... Node-RED and node-wot
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- ... you can find the code of node-wot on GitHub
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- ... node-wot is a library based on Node.js
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- ... [WoT Workshop: Munich 2019]
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- ... had a W3C workshop the other day
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- ... pretty nice systems running here
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- ... you can see a BMW car as part of the WoT PlugFest
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- ... described by Thing Description
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- ... upper right is Mozilla gateway
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- ... [W3C WoT Resources]
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- ... that's it for my presentation
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- ... uploaded on GitHub
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- ... the main repo is "wot" under w3c
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- @@@link
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- mm: finish a bit earlier
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- ... and would invite you all to the lunch place for actual demo
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- ... questions?
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- (none)
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- mm: ok
- 05:02:17 [kaz]
- ... in that case, please come to the lunch place for the actual demo
- 05:02:20 [kaz]
- ... tx!
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- [presentation done; people move to the lunch place for actual demo]
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- s|@@@link|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/PRESENTATIONS/2019-09_WoT-Plugfest.pdf McCool's slides|
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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