IRC log of webstories on 2019-09-18

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meeting: Web Stories
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present+
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present+
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present+ Coralie
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present+
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Present+
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present+ Bert Bos
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present+ Karl_Dubost
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present+
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present+
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present+ Rachel
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topic: round the table
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present+ wendyreid
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present+ koalie
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present+ amy
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[let's tell each other how we came to the web]
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present+ Bert
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Peng: 1987: testbed for the Web
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... then @@
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... now I represent my perception of the new web
05:38:04 [koalie]
... WeChat is like the Web in China
05:38:25 [koalie]
... drawback is that it's controled by one
05:38:35 [koalie]
... we're proposing a decentralized WeChat
05:38:36 [Ralph]
present+
05:39:22 [koalie]
... from WWW to the new Web
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s/Peng/Rong/
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Yoshira: 30 years ago in Japan, no internet
05:40:11 [koalie]
... when the Web appeared, several services like ftp, fogher
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s/fog/gop/
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... history of service, platforms
05:40:49 [koalie]
... I have a long experience in internet
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... changes of the internet
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... how will the changes to the internet affect services
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... my hope for the future: communication with large @@
05:42:04 [koalie]
... e.g. between astronauts, to the moon, mars
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s/large @@/large distance/
05:42:20 [koalie]
Karl: Hi, I'm Karl, I'm a webaholic
05:42:35 [koalie]
... I started using the internet before the Web
05:42:43 [koalie]
... why?
05:42:46 [koalie]
... I was using usenet
05:42:54 [koalie]
... I saw Tim's message announcing the Web
05:43:06 [koalie]
... I started to compile the server at Montreal University
05:43:22 [koalie]
... I put a link to page B on Page A and the other way around... and... MAGIC!
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05:43:28 [koalie]
... I saw the potential right away
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... I bored my friends to death
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... today?
05:43:50 [koalie]
... I'm still amazed
05:43:58 [koalie]
... 30 years after, I find it still mind-blowing
05:44:32 [koalie]
... for those who don't know me: I worked 10 yaers at W3C, then Opera, than a web agency, now Mozilla
05:44:35 [koalie]
... my fear?
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... hyper-centralization of services, all the things that are needed to put things online
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... threats to individuals
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... it enables searching, control, mass surveillance
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... my hope?
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... finding solutions in the protocols, the formats
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... that allow something more distributed
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Tom: I'm with Mozilla
05:46:18 [koalie]
... I've started very young when I started to "be on the Web"
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... I was into old computer
05:46:33 [koalie]
... in Ontario Canada, access to internet was a challenge
05:46:49 [koalie]
... as soon as the internet was available I read everything I could on it
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... then I got education and a job
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... I returned quickly to it
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... became a web developer
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... it blew my mind to return to it
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... how the web was forming
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... I started to feel empowered
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... I joined Mozilla to follow my conscience
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... this has inspired me to do better
05:48:05 [koalie]
... make the Web a safer place for people
05:48:31 [koalie]
... I want to be part of the wave that makes that renaissance happen
05:48:40 [koalie]
Helen: I'm with the Sovrin Foundation
05:48:47 [koalie]
... we're a non-profit
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... deentralized network for the exchange of VCs
05:49:05 [koalie]
... I am here for the DID WG
05:49:18 [koalie]
... I was a recipient of one of the Diversity Fund
05:49:23 [koalie]
... my background is journalism
05:49:33 [koalie]
... I covered capitol hill for a while
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... facilititad the coverage by all of the journalist
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... coming here? that's very similar
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... then I worked in children's books with the privacy and security angle
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... my husband works at the NSA
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[people laugh at the contrast]
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Helen: I really enjoy talking about decentralization, priv-sec
05:51:25 [koalie]
... I want my children to have safer interactiosn on the internet
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Wendy_Reid: Kobo
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... fellow Ontario kid
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... I'm younger than the Web
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[Tanya too!]
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Wendy: my early days on the Internet were games and messenger
05:52:26 [koalie]
... my intro to W3C was through neopets
05:52:36 [koalie]
... looking at "how do I?" pages
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Ralph: wait! are you younger than CSS?
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Wendy: not that young :)
05:53:03 [koalie]
... I searhed html tags
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... ended up on the html specs
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... I created my own web page
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... friends and I would spend hours on table layouts
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s/searhed/searched/
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Wendy: my journey with EPUB brought me back right at the W3C
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... I told my childhood best friend I was going to TPAC --she's the only person who understands
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[laugh]
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Wendy: there are amazing things coming out of the Web
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... I would love the Web to return to a place that was safe, not controlled by big corp run by a man who looks a bit like an alien
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Rachel_Comerford: McMillan Learning
05:56:36 [koalie]
... I had no interest in the Web as a kid
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... but was raised by someone who was
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... my Dad
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... he forced the Web on me at every turn
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... I was given logo to play with
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... and basic and c++
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05:57:45 [koalie]
... because of that I rebelled and went into creative writing
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... I can't avoid the Web under any circumstances apparently
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... so I went into Digital Publishing
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... in standardization
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... when IDPF merged with W3C, MAcMillan decidd that I would become the representative for them at the W3C
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... I'm making my father very happy and proud
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[laughs]
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Tantek_Çelik: back when I was working at Microsoft in 1998,
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... I was told to implement CSS
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... I asked a lot of questions
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... Chris Wilson, whom as was asking all my questions, told me to just go ask the working group in e-mail
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06:00:26 [koalie]
... the group after a while said "you should join our meeting. It's in paris"
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... and this is where I met Bert and started to be a member of the group
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... we have a high bar of where things were
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... since then, I'm in a community I love
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... doing work in the open
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... contribute to other people's work
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... fast-forward 2000s
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... I worked at a startup indexing blogs at Technorati
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... social media happen
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... a bunch of us wanted something decentralized
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... 2010
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... a bunch of us started IndieWeb
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... to reclaim our identities, and content on the Web --with a modern approach
06:02:28 [koalie]
... fast-forward a few more year: work at Mozilla
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... who paid me to work on the things I liked
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... I was asked to chair the social web working group
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... and people heard my ideas and I was invited to an AB meeting
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... was elected and spent 5 years on the W3C AB
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... despite all the positive impact of the Web I want to ground it in reality
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... in the last few years, there's been very bad impact
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... having worked on some of the fundamental technologies, I feel we could have done a better job
06:04:10 [koalie]
... the web has brought us societal needs
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s/needs/ills
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... people are impacted even those not involved in moving the web forward
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... I'd like to recognise this and @@
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Ralph_Swick: I'm Ralph
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s/@@/focus on how can we address the ills especially those that disproportionately impact marginalized communities and individuals/
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... I have been around longer than the Web
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... the machine I kept running still had Mozilla [first version?]
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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... my goals were tools for humans
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... shared with our contemporaries
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... near time, but also that could persist for those who come after us
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... so they understand
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s/Mozilla [first version?]/Netscape Navigator
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... "cool URIs don't change" for me is meaningful
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... that's how I got here
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... why I stay here?
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... how to fix those problems
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Bartek: google Tokyo
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... recently joined
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... trying to find my place here, and in the universe
06:08:51 [koalie]
... I was introduced to the Web by pure accident
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s/Mozilla [/Netscape Navigator
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... I work on the chrome architecture
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... a big chunck of my team was going to TPAC so I decided to tag along
06:10:15 [koalie]
... I didn't do a lot of web dev myself except in my school days
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... now I'm part of the Chrome team
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... interesting to see where this is going
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... social media are very interesting place
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present+ Bartek_Google
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Bert_Bos: I've also been working on the Internet before the Web
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... ftp, usenet, e-mail
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... I didn't like the Web at first
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... Gopher I liked
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... but not long
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... I saw the possibilities to create something
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... very useful for researchers at university
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... documentation,
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... URLs, mimetypes
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... I created a web browser
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... I installed the first web server of my university, too
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... I want my information and my creation to be useful to others
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... as others here mentioned, people something do things unexpected
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... with things we create
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... in my case, no bad example
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Amy_van_der_Hiel: I don't have a tech background
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... mine is art history
06:14:39 [koalie]
... used the Web to do research
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... I came at the W3C to become PA to Tim Berners-Lee
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... I stay because of what we do and what the Web does
06:15:10 [koalie]
... I didn't intend to stay that long
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... I can say simply how the web is misused to my friends
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... I'm happy and grateful for all of you doing all you're doing to keep us safe
06:16:31 [koalie]
David_Ezell: I got out of school with a master in performance and musical @@
06:16:37 [koalie]
... I thought I'd do that the rest of my life
06:16:42 [koalie]
... but I found computers
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... at a company that believed in web standards
06:16:59 [Bert]
s/documentation/documentation, ways to combine information of different types from different sources/
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... fueling convenience stores
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RRSAgent, pointer?
06:17:54 [RRSAgent]
See https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-irc#T06-17-54
06:18:07 [koalie]
... this was before 1999 and I was told "XML? don't worry, it's a buzz word"
06:18:26 [koalie]
... then 1999, POS (point of sales) <-> back offices
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... XML structured data
06:18:53 [koalie]
... Tim talked at our 10th anniv
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... he was our keynote speaker, this was 2007
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... let's talk about gas pumps
06:19:40 [koalie]
... all of what they do is described by SML
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s/SM/XM/
06:19:52 [koalie]
... Tim gave us this talk on gas pumps
06:20:19 [koalie]
... we were looking for unicorns
06:20:32 [koalie]
... what are today's unicorns?
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... answer: web of things
06:20:56 [koalie]
... that can help monitor a store as a unit factory
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... answer: DID
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... which could help buying a product without engaging with a brand
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Tanya_Mandal: I'm also younger than the Web
06:22:08 [koalie]
... heard about it in school
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... thought it was the coolest thing ever
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... my friends were impressed when I made my first web page
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... I wanted to make my careerd out of it
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s/eerd/eer
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...and work in education
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... I work at Internet Acedemy
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... who offered me to become a fellow at the W3C
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... within the comm team
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... what I'm doing comes under the bucket of UX
06:24:10 [koalie]
... how do we make solutions that empower people, enable them, etc.
06:24:16 [koalie]
... that's why I love doing what I do
06:24:43 [koalie]
Hadley_Beeman: My story was when I was 9yo in Ohia
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s/hia/hio/
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... at my school
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... our computer teacher showed me a modem
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... we had a limited access
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... what blew my mind was scientific data: the weather forecast
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... fast-forward 2010
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... I was out of job after a contract finished
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... job open at Open Data Institude
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... linkgov
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... founded with friends
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... Tantek came to our of our meetings
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... one question was licensing
06:27:32 [koalie]
... this is when Tantek, whom I continue to blame for it, said "you should join the HTML WG"
06:27:42 [koalie]
... they accepted anyone as Invited Expert at the time
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... once I done that and voted in the whatwg / w3c survey
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... I started to pay attention
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... microformat/rdfa conversation interested me
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... I jumped in, and in another one
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... one thing leading to another...
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... what gets me going is doing stuff that's really important
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... the plumbing and architecture for users
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... affects all kinds of people
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... that's why I'm hear
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... I love to be part of this community
06:29:34 [koalie]
... we're all sharing that same passion
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s/hear/here/
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... It's pretty amazing
06:30:22 [hadleybeeman]
s/linkgov/linkedgov
06:30:40 [amy]
Coralie: i've been at w3c for 20 years. it's my first serious job. my background is secretarial/executive assistant. my diploma was english as foriegn langague
06:31:18 [amy]
.. I went to ERCIM, I didn't know the web. i used it once because i i bought a Celine Delon CD to find out what this wwww. was. there was no google
06:31:55 [koalie]
https://www.w3.org/2019/Talks/TPAC/ac-coralie-fundraising/Overview.html#
06:31:56 [amy]
... they mentioned something, and i figured out what it was. fast forward to ERCIM
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tantek: RRS Agent?
06:32:50 [hadleybeeman]
ralph: I wanted this tool so our meetings could persist. we were using IRC, but it was emphemeral
06:32:50 [koalie]
Ralph: as I said, I wanted tools to persist our conversation
06:32:52 [tantek]
who is RRSAgent?
06:32:55 [koalie]
s/tion/tions/
06:33:04 [koalie]
... I learned syntax
06:33:08 [YoshiroYoneya]
https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
06:33:16 [koalie]
... invited my tools to where we recorded the conversations
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... and my bot, rrsagent records this
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David: you were also the voice of Zakim
06:33:43 [koalie]
Ralph: RRS are my initials
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... so RRSagent was my agent
06:34:16 [hadleybeeman]
coralie: I don't know if I told you, but when RSS came, I kept typing RSSAgent.
06:34:29 [hadleybeeman]
ralph: everybody new to W3C makes that mistake. I apologise for that!
06:34:53 [hadleybeeman]
coralie: I'd like to get in conversation with you so we can use your stories.
06:35:02 [hadleybeeman]
...You can write to me at coralie@w3.org.
06:35:06 [koalie]
RRSagent, make minutes
06:35:06 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
06:35:07 [tantek]
My business card / contact info is https://tantek.com/contact
06:35:12 [tantek]
:)
06:35:20 [koalie]
RRSagent, make minutes
06:35:20 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
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s/Tom:/Thomas_Wisniewski:/
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s/Rong:/Rong_Chen:/
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s/Karl:/Karl_Dubost:/
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s/Helen:/Helen_Garneau:/
09:17:41 [koalie]
s/Tantek_Çelik:/Tantek_Celik:/
09:18:35 [tantek]
:)
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s/Bartek:/Bartek_Nowierski:/
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RRSagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
09:22:59 [koalie]
chair: Coralie_Mercier
09:23:04 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'learn UTF8 :)', tantek. Try /msg RRSAgent help
09:23:48 [koalie]
s/web]/Web, our hopes and fears, etc.]/
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RRSagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
09:27:32 [koalie]
s/Helen: I'm/Helen_Garneau: I'm/
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RRSagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
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s/went to ERCIM/applied for a job at Inria; it was for W3C/
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s/langague/language/
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i|Coralie: i've|scribenick: amy|
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s/i i/as I/
09:30:07 [koalie]
s/CD/CD showing the sony URI at the back, and I was not able/
09:32:49 [koalie]
s/they mentioned/friends of mine mentioned/
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i|Ralph: as I said|scribenick: koalie|
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s/Yoshira:/Yoshiro_Yoneya:/
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i|coralie: I don't|scribenick: hadleybeeman|
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RRSagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
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i|[let's tell|scribenick: koalie|
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s/Topic: round the table/Topic: How we came to the Web, our hopes, fears, etc./
09:37:40 [koalie]
s/[let's tell each other how we came to the Web, our hopes and fears, etc.]//
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RRSagent, make minutes
09:37:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/18-webstories-minutes.html koalie
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