W3C

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WoT-PlugFest

11 Sep 2019

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi
Regrets
Chair
Lagally
Scribe
McCool

Contents


<inserted> scribenick: McCool

Agenda

let's start with recap of yesterday

then talk about consolidated demo

Kaz: I updated the plugfest wiki with several expected topics

McCool: I think we should also look at the action items

Action items

Lagally: did all mine; new tds, uploaded, etc.
... also generated a couple of additional ones

<kaz> Sep-10 minutes

Lagally: now have festo instances for various companies
... HVAC instances for various companies

<kaz> TDs for TPAC

Lagally: any problem let up

McCool: did all my updates; camera TDs updated, digest auth now works

Online plugfest results

Lagally: hangout confusion
... then did simple comm test
... then did test scenarios from various companies
... smart home, industrial
... then saw demo from NHK
... scenario described in demo docs
... events in broadcast can trigger actions in devices

Plugfest logistics

Lagally: we need to figure out what we will do in common demo
... and we should avoid having to tear it apart during breakout

Daniel: got late notice that christian cannot come
... I will be taking over... but not fully up to date

Lagally: unfortunately we do not have a lot of information on what Siemens was planning
... but we have not seen a TD
... but we do have the festo simulator on oracle
... if you have a power simulator or something we can integrate it into a scenario
... but without a TD that is very hard

Daniel: ok, I will try to find out more information and upload TDs etc

Kaz: can you join prep on Sunday?

Daniel: unfortunately arriving on Sunday night
... going to tuesday thing though

Kaz: tues is the last chance, so please consider the possibility of joining prep on Sunday as well

McCool: regarding the demos... Intel can duplicate the speaker and camera services so we can use them in both
... will attend sunday prep remotely
... and make sure devices are up

Lagally: (shows diagram) does this reflect the devices and demos that are possible?
... let's call the demo at the panasonic table the unified demo

<kaz> -> github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka PlugFest page

McCool: suggest panasonic table is the "demo", and the breakout is the "breakout" (even if we do demos there)

<inserted> (kaz: suggests we think about some specific scenario for the "demo", e.g., which device/app should be the starting point and which device/app should be the ending point)

Lagally: we should figure out what is going to be on the combined demo
... assume there will be a few remote things as well
... who is bringing the laptops, etc?
... panasonic will be bringing a rasppi and a screen
... which can be set up to show their lab

McCool: I can bring a small laptop running the speech and camera things

Lagally: what can fujitsu bring?

Suzuki: devices, also bringing display
... can be showing slides

Lagally: can you show simulators

McCool: that is big enough to be a central focus
... can be showing the festo simulator or the like

Lagally: what makes sense for hitachi to bring?

Toumura: laptop, small application, node-red
... show orchestration

Lagally: that can be in the middle, can orchestrate other devices

Daniel: i understood that christian was just going to have a pure SW demo

Lagally: was it integrated with other devices?

Daniel: I think it was a combined demo with ecog; don't know more

McCool: I think we should think through the scenario for the panasonic table
... do we have any devices locally
... what scenarios make sense?

<kaz> diagram of local devices/applications and remote devices/applications

Lagally: can you integrate additional devices in node-red, eg TUM's prox sensor or switch?
... would like to use something from TUM
... want to show devices from different companies can work together

Ege: have LED matrix and buttons

Kaz: link above has diagram of all the devices

McCool: I think the scenario needs to make sense from a "story" point of view, too

Lagally: if panasonic is leading the whole thing, then a smart home scenario makes sense
... for nhk we have an owner
... needs owners for others
... makes sense for the owners to be japanese or at least can make it to the weekend setup session
... I think we need one orchestrator for the panasonic table

Toumura: unfortunately I have no dedicated demo laptop for tpac

McCool: so who is able to bring an extra laptop?

Lagally: want an existing laptop rather than setting up a new one

Kaz: given that toumura can't bring a laptop
... would you be able to do an install on sunday
... but I may be able to bring one; can you do an install?

Toumura: linux is preferred; but node-red is not os dependent

Lagally: suzuki also had a node-red impl

Suzuki: difficult to do the entire week

Ege: can do export, set up new machine sunday night

Lagally: but ideally we should be set up before then

Kaz: usually bring my own linux pc and windows
... and I can bring an extra linux pc

Lagally: ok, that sounds like it will work
... kaz brings an extra linux machine, and toumura sets it up to demo
... fallback is ege with a rasp pi

Ege: I have a small display but it's pretty small

Lagally: well, we will have a lot of displays
... but still, the extra linux laptop sounds like the best option; let that be plan A

<kaz> ACTION: kaz to provide an extra linux pc for the joint demo

Lagally: still in the middle of scenario discussion
... some combination of what we have already?
... doesn't have to be realistic, just needs to show interaction across companies
... back to the agenda
... demo will actually be set up on Monday
... we do need to figure out some kind of shifts
... I think there should be at least one person and ideally two
... suggest we set up a "shift" table in the wiki or in the demo logistics doc
... (sets up table outline, 2-hour chunks)

McCool: do we actually want to run the demos thursday and friday?
... I think we should start with Wed, see who can do what

Lagally: probably can't figure this out now...

McCool: let's look at the conflicts too

Kaz: the issue is the schedule on wed is a bit different
... as it is the plenary day

McCool: maybe the first step is to figure out the set of volunteers, then the schedule

Kaz: I will remove extra two columns from table
... mlagally, it is possible for you to join the sunday prep remotely?
... -7h... 6am to 11am

Lagally: can join at 8am?

Kaz: 7am to 11am?

Lagally: ok

Kaz: that is 2pm to 6pm
... I will set up a webex; hangout is already available

Lagally: logistics

McCool: do we have to worry about ports being blocked?

Kaz: should be no restriction on NHK portable router

Kawaguchi: we need to set up on monday morning too
... what time?

Lagally: what would be your suggestion?

McCool: I can add speech on Tuesday morning
... so scenario will have to be a little different on monday

Kaz: I will have to talk to naomi again?

Kawaguchi: panasonic table will be available from monday

Lagally: one or two more things: title plate?

Kaz: done

Lagally: breakout or demo session?

Kaz: just breakout

Lagally: ok, I will remove the demo session
... suggest we just go in at 8 and get set up on monday

McCool: and I will be there at 8 on Tuesday

Lagally: sorry I won't be there, but will call in
... aob?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: kaz to provide an extra linux pc for the joint demo
 

Summary of Resolutions

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