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13:01:13 <kaz> Meeting: WoT-PlugFest
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13:11:28 <mlagally> zakim, pick a scribe
13:11:28 <Zakim> I don't who is present, mlagally
13:12:11 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi
13:12:15 <kaz> Chair: Lagally
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13:12:34 <McCool> let's start with recap of yesterday
13:12:43 <McCool> then talk about consolidated demo
13:13:02 <McCool> kaz: I updated the plugfest wiki with several expected topics
13:13:19 <McCool> mccool: I think we should also look at the action items
13:13:27 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_11.09.2019
13:13:28 <dape> q+
13:13:41 <McCool> topic: action items
13:13:54 <McCool> mlagally: did all mine; new tds, uploaded, etc.
13:14:04 <McCool> ... also generated a couple of additional ones
13:14:07 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-wot-pf-minutes.html Sep-10 minutes
13:14:50 <McCool> ... now have festo instances for various companies
13:15:00 <McCool> ... HVAC instances for various companies
13:15:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka/TDs TDs for TPAC
13:15:17 <McCool> ... any problem let up
13:16:20 <McCool> mccool: did all my updates; camera TDs updated, digest auth now works
13:16:38 <McCool> topic: online plugfest results
13:16:49 <McCool> mlagally: hangout confusion
13:16:56 <McCool> ... then did simple comm test
13:17:08 <McCool> ... then did test scenarios from various companies
13:17:16 <McCool> ... smart home, industrial
13:17:21 <McCool> ... then saw demo from NHK
13:17:26 <kaz> i/let's start/scribenick: McCool/
13:17:35 <McCool> ... scenario described in demo docs
13:17:49 <McCool> ... events in broadcast can trigger actions in devices
13:18:05 <McCool> topic: plugfest logistics
13:18:29 <McCool> ... we need to figure out what we will do in common demo
13:18:45 <McCool> ... and we should avoid having to tear it apart during breakout
13:18:50 <kaz> q?
13:18:54 <kaz> ack dape
13:19:05 <McCool> dape: got late notice that christian cannot come
13:19:16 <kaz> q+
13:19:19 <McCool> ... I will be taking over... but not fully up to date
13:19:48 <McCool> mlagally: unfortunately we do not have a lot of information on what Siemens was planning
13:19:53 <McCool> ... but we have not seen a TD
13:20:21 <McCool> ... but we do have the festo simulator on oracle
13:20:57 <McCool> ... if you have a power simulator or something we can integrate it into a scenario
13:21:04 <McCool> ... but without a TD that is very hard
13:21:21 <McCool> dape: ok, I will try to find out more information and upload TDs etc
13:21:44 <kaz> ack k
13:21:48 <McCool> kaz: can you join prep on Sunday?
13:22:03 <McCool> dape: unfortunately arriving on Sunday night
13:22:12 <McCool> ... going to tuesday thing though
13:22:21 <McCool> kaz: tues is the last chance
13:23:04 <kaz> q+
13:23:54 <McCool> mccool: regarding the demos... Intel can duplicate the speaker and camera services so we can use them in both
13:24:08 <McCool> ... will attend sunday prep remotely
13:24:15 <McCool> ... and make sure devices are up
13:24:49 <McCool> mlagally: (shows diagram) does this reflect the devices and demos that are possible?
13:24:54 <kaz> s/the last chance/the last chance, so please consider the possibility of joining prep on Sunday as well/
13:25:48 <McCool> mlagally: let's call the panasonic table the unified demo
13:26:20 <kaz> -> github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka PlugFest page
13:26:40 <kaz> s/the panasonic table/the demo at the panasonic table/
13:27:01 <McCool> mccool: suggest panasonic table is the "demo", and the breakout is the "breakout" (even if we do demos there)
13:27:59 <McCool> mlagally: we should figure out what is going to be on the combined demo
13:28:20 <kaz> (kaz: suggests we think about some specific scenario for the "demo", e.g., which device/app should be the starting point and which device/app should be the ending point)
13:28:26 <McCool> ... assume there will be a few remote things as well
13:28:44 <kaz> s/... assume/mlagally: assume/
13:30:18 <kaz> s|(kaz: suggests we think about some specific scenario for the "demo", e.g., which device/app should be the starting point and which device/app should be the ending point)||
13:30:30 <kaz> i|we should figure|(kaz: suggests we think about some specific scenario for the "demo", e.g., which device/app should be the starting point and which device/app should be the ending point)|
13:31:02 <McCool> ... who is bringing the laptops, etc?
13:31:17 <McCool> ... panasonic will be bringing a rasppi and a screen
13:31:35 <McCool> ... which can be set up to show their lab
13:32:26 <McCool> mccool: I can bring a small laptop running the speech and camera things
13:32:56 <McCool> mlagally: what can fujitsu bring?
13:33:22 <McCool> suzuki: devices, also bringing display
13:33:38 <McCool> ... can be showing slides
13:34:01 <McCool> mlagally: can you show simulators
13:34:16 <McCool> mccool: that is big enough to be a central focus
13:34:26 <McCool> ... can be showing the festo simulator or the like
13:34:55 <McCool> mlagally: what makes sense for hitachi to bring?
13:35:14 <McCool> toumura: laptop, small application, node-red
13:35:23 <McCool> ... show orchestration
13:35:45 <McCool> mlagally: that can be in the middle, can orchestrate other devices
13:36:28 <McCool> dape: i understood that christian was just going to have a pure SW demo
13:36:43 <McCool> mlagally: was it integrated with other devices?
13:36:58 <McCool> dape: I think it was a combined demo with ecog; don't know more
13:37:51 <McCool> mccool: I think we should think through the scenario for the panasonic table
13:38:57 <McCool> ... do we have any devices locally
13:40:52 <McCool> ... what scenarios make sense?
13:41:56 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/raw/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka/images/demodevices.png diagram of local devices/applications and remote devices/applications
13:42:08 <McCool> mlagally: can you integrate additional devices in node-red, eg TUM's prox sensor or switch?
13:42:29 <McCool> ... would like to use something from TUM
13:42:40 <McCool> ... want to show devices from different companies can work together
13:43:10 <McCool> ege: have LED matrix and buttons
13:43:37 <McCool> kaz: link above has diagram of all the devices
13:44:53 <McCool> mccool: I think the scenario needs to make sense from a "story" point of view, too
13:45:35 <McCool> mlagally: if panasonic is leading the whole thing, then a smart home scenario makes sense
13:45:45 <McCool> ... for nhk we have an owner
13:46:01 <McCool> ... needs owners for others
13:46:50 <McCool> ... makes sense for the owners to be japanese or at least can make it to the weekend setup session
13:48:05 <McCool> ... I think we need one orchestrator for the panasonic table
13:48:30 <McCool> toumura: unfortunately I have no dedicated demo laptop for tpac
13:48:55 <McCool> mccool: so who is able to bring an extra laptop?
13:49:26 <McCool> mlagally: want an existing laptop rather than setting up a new one
13:50:37 <McCool> kaz: given that toumura can't bring a laptop
13:50:47 <McCool> ... would you be able to do an install on sunday
13:51:02 <McCool> kaz: but I may be able to bring one; can you do an install?
13:51:21 <McCool> toumura: linux is preferred; but node-red is not os dependent
13:52:02 <McCool> mlagally: suzuki also had a node-red impl
13:52:25 <McCool> suzuki: difficult to do the entire week
13:53:09 <McCool> ege: can do export, set up new machine sunday night
13:53:18 <McCool> mlagally: but ideally we should be set up before then
13:54:26 <McCool> kaz: usually bring my own linux pc and windows
13:54:37 <McCool> ... and I can bring an extra linux pc
13:54:49 <McCool> mlagally: ok, that sounds like it will work
13:55:12 <McCool> ... kaz brings an extra linux machine, and toumura sets it up to demo
13:55:20 <McCool> ... fallback is ege with a rasp pi
13:55:56 <McCool> ege: I have a small display but it's pretty small
13:56:16 <McCool> mlagally: well, we will have a lot of displays
13:56:35 <McCool> ... but still, the extra linux laptop sounds like the best option; let that be plan A
13:56:37 <kaz> action: kaz to provide an extra linux pc for the joint demo
13:57:42 <McCool> mlagally: still in the middle of scenario discussion
13:58:00 <McCool> ... some combination of what we have already?
13:58:19 <McCool> ... doesn't have to be realistic, just needs to show interaction across companies
13:59:40 <McCool> mlagally: back to the agenda
14:00:03 <McCool> ... demo will actually be set up on Monday
14:00:13 <kaz> q+
14:00:18 <McCool> ... we do need to figure out some kind of shifts
14:01:10 <McCool> ... I think there should be at least one person and ideally two
14:01:52 <McCool> ... suggest we set up a "shift" table in the wiki or in the demo logistics doc
14:02:51 <McCool> mlagally: (sets up table outline, 2-hour chunks)
14:04:21 <McCool> mccool: do we actually want to run the demos thursday and friday?
14:05:40 <McCool> mccool: I think we should start with Wed, see who can do what
14:07:11 <McCool> mlagally: probably can't figure this out now...
14:07:22 <McCool> mccool: let's look at the conflicts too
14:08:18 <McCool> kaz: the issue is the schedule on wed is a bit different
14:08:25 <McCool> ... as it is the plenary day
14:09:07 <McCool> mccool: maybe the first step is to figure out the set of volunteers, then the schedule
14:09:35 <McCool> kaz: I will remove extra two columns from table
14:09:58 <McCool> kaz: mlagally, it is possible for you to join the sunday prep remotely?
14:10:18 <McCool> kaz: -7h... 6am to 11am
14:10:34 <McCool> mlagally: can join at 8am?
14:10:40 <McCool> kaz: 7am to 11am?
14:10:44 <McCool> mlagally: ok
14:10:55 <McCool> kaz: that is 2pm to 6pm
14:11:11 <McCool> kaz: I will set up a webex; hangout is already available
14:11:35 <McCool> mlagally: logistics
14:11:48 <McCool> mccool: do we have to worry about ports being blocked?
14:12:32 <McCool> kaz: should be no restriction on NHK portable router
14:12:52 <McCool> kawaguchi: we need to set up on monday morning too
14:12:56 <McCool> ... what time?
14:13:12 <McCool> mlagally: what would be your suggestion?
14:14:44 <McCool> mccool: I can add speech on Tuesday morning
14:14:54 <McCool> ... so scenario will have to be a little different on monday
14:15:10 <McCool> kaz: I will have to talk to naomi again?
14:15:28 <McCool> kawaguchi: panasonic table will be available from monday
14:15:41 <McCool> mlagally: one or two more things: title plate?
14:15:44 <McCool> kaz: done
14:16:03 <McCool> mlagally: breakout or demo session?
14:16:08 <McCool> kaz: just breakout
14:16:27 <McCool> mlagally: ok, I will remove the demo session
14:16:49 <McCool> mlagally: suggest we just go in at 8 and get set up on monday
14:17:00 <McCool> mccool: and I will be there at 8 on Tuesday
14:17:28 <McCool> mlagally: sorry I won't be there, but will call in
14:17:48 <McCool> ... aob?
14:18:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:18:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:18:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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