IRC log of wot on 2019-09-11
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-irc
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- Meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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- Chair: McCool
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster, Taki_Kamiya, Zoltan_Kis
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- present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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- present+ Daniel_Peintner
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- present+ Michael_Lagally
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- present+ Toru_Kawaguchi
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- present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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- 12:10:06 [McCool]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_Sept_2019
- 12:10:55 [kaz]
- zakim, pick a scribe
- 12:10:55 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kaz_Ashimura
- 12:11:06 [kaz]
- zakim, pick a scribe
- 12:11:06 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
- 12:11:13 [kawaguch]
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- present+ Takahisa_Suzuki
- 12:11:15 [sebastian]
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- present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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- scribenick: mjkoster
- 12:11:41 [mjkoster]
- topic: IG chater
- 12:12:09 [mjkoster]
- kaz: still need to get confirmation on the one month extension
- 12:12:53 [mjkoster]
- topic: resolutions
- 12:13:12 [mjkoster]
- mm: would like to publish the security document
- 12:13:12 [kaz]
- s/still/got approval to send the draft Charter out to AC review, and am working with the Comm Team for that. still/
- 12:13:27 [kaz]
- present+ Ege_Korkan
- 12:13:35 [mjkoster]
- ... and the scripting API document
- 12:13:43 [mjkoster]
- kaz: need 2 resolutions
- 12:13:51 [McCool]
- proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
- 12:14:29 [mjkoster]
- zkis: agree
- 12:15:04 [mjkoster]
- zkis: one change is pending
- 12:16:01 [McCool]
- proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as a new Working Draft
- 12:16:23 [McCool]
- proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note
- 12:16:42 [mjkoster]
- mm: any objections?
- 12:16:52 [mjkoster]
- mm: no objections, resolution passed
- 12:16:57 [McCool]
- resolution: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note
- 12:17:38 [mjkoster]
- topic: marketing
- 12:18:22 [Mizushima_]
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- 12:18:41 [mjkoster]
- sk: we should have a clear roadmap about how to update the W3C WoT public presence
- 12:19:02 [mjkoster]
- ... the information is inconsistent and confusing to newcomers
- 12:19:22 [dsr]
- q+
- 12:19:25 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:19:37 [mjkoster]
- ... would like to ask dsr and kaz what is possible
- 12:20:18 [mjkoster]
- ... would like to discuss at TPAC with W3C marketing representation
- 12:20:39 [mjkoster]
- mm: we have had this issue for 2 years, agree we need a plan
- 12:20:53 [dsr]
- q?
- 12:21:14 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: different aspects of marketing
- 12:21:25 [mjkoster]
- ... need a landing page for TPAC
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- q?
- 12:21:49 [matsuda]
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- 12:22:16 [mjkoster]
- ... we need to so some WG internal alignment and update the wiki page
- 12:22:37 [mjkoster]
- ... can we do this before TPAC?
- 12:22:56 [kaz]
- present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 12:23:07 [kaz]
- present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
- 12:23:14 [kaz]
- ack d
- 12:23:15 [McCool]
- q?
- 12:23:43 [mjkoster]
- dsr: please collect ideas and kaz and dsr can update the landing page
- 12:24:07 [mjkoster]
- ... also think about FAQ which is a longer term item
- 12:24:37 [zkis]
- q?
- 12:24:43 [zkis]
- ack kaz
- 12:24:52 [mjkoster]
- kaz: already taken an action item about joint discussion with W3C marketing team at TPAC
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- -> https://www.w3.org/2019/html/ HTML WG page
- 12:25:51 [mjkoster]
- ... is this the page Sebastian is referring to?
- 12:26:13 [mjkoster]
- mm: let's move on in the agenda at this point
- 12:26:19 [mjkoster]
- topic: logistics
- 12:26:34 [kaz]
- i/logistics/kaz: ok
- 12:26:35 [mjkoster]
- mm: no calls next week, what about the rest of this week
- 12:26:49 [mjkoster]
- ... what about Friday this week? Thursday?
- 12:27:09 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: prepared to have the call if people are available
- 12:27:36 [mjkoster]
- mm: we will have architecture call
- 12:28:02 [kaz]
- s/action item about joint/action item during the Editors call one hour ago about possible joint/
- 12:28:20 [mjkoster]
- taki: don't think we have urgent business, Ege may have some business
- 12:28:48 [mjkoster]
- ege: only question is publication of Binding Templates document
- 12:29:08 [mjkoster]
- ... only remaining issue is MQTT vocabulary
- 12:29:34 [mjkoster]
- mm: can we discuss the current version as release candidate at TPAC
- 12:29:53 [mjkoster]
- mm: topic: observer requests
- 12:30:08 [mjkoster]
- ... Dan Brickley has asked
- 12:30:41 [mjkoster]
- ... will accept the requests
- 12:30:48 [mjkoster]
- topic: demo logistics
- 12:30:57 [mjkoster]
- mm: will discuss more in the next call
- 12:31:22 [mjkoster]
- ... we only get one hour but htere is a table (panasonic) that will be up the whole time
- 12:31:36 [mjkoster]
- ... propose a joint demo and point to the breakout session
- 12:31:39 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:32:15 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: for the unified demo we are informed by the online plugfest
- 12:32:41 [mjkoster]
- mm: don't know the time yet so we need to be flexible and ready
- 12:32:54 [mjkoster]
- mm: arrange to go around 3:00
- 12:33:08 [mjkoster]
- topic: please register
- 12:33:33 [mjkoster]
- kaz: already updated the wiki pages
- 12:34:51 [mjkoster]
- ... new problem, we may need to choose one or the other of demo session and breakout session
- 12:35:03 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_11.09.2019 PlugFest call wiki
- 12:35:12 [mjkoster]
- mm: makes sense to ask for breakout sessions
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- topic: f2f agenda
- 12:35:47 [mjkoster]
- mm: discussed the schedule at the editors call
- 12:36:09 [mjkoster]
- ... list of constraints
- 12:36:31 [mjkoster]
- ... trying to move things to the afternoon to accommodate Europe
- 12:36:32 [kaz]
- i/wiki/kaz: btw, as Lagally mentioned, we need to think about a unified demo, so I've added that point to the PlugFest wiki. Let's discuss that during the PlugFest call later./
- 12:37:01 [mjkoster]
- ... if we have lunch 11-12 then we can gain another hour
- 12:37:47 [kaz]
- i|discussed|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Thu.2C_19_Sep_2019:_Technical_Work_-_Day_1 F2F Agenda|
- 12:38:29 [mjkoster]
- mm: need to work on UCR for profiles
- 12:39:02 [mjkoster]
- mm: hoping to get the Privacy group discussion in this slot
- 12:40:08 [mjkoster]
- ... start creating bullet points and time estimates
- 12:40:30 [mjkoster]
- ... we need to write down organizer names also
- 12:41:01 [mjkoster]
- mm: any other comments or problems?
- 12:41:33 [mjkoster]
- kaz: We need to move JSON-LD from Monday/Tuesday
- 12:41:59 [mjkoster]
- mm: there is a 1/2 hour slot for a joint meeting
- 12:42:57 [kaz]
- s|Tuesday|Tuesday to Thursday/Friday|
- 12:43:59 [mjkoster]
- topic: tf report out
- 12:44:30 [mjkoster]
- taki: didn't have a call last week, there are some new github issues
- 12:44:51 [mjkoster]
- mm: suggest we label them for extension vs. update
- 12:45:17 [mjkoster]
- ege: merged PR to clean up references, clean enough to publish
- 12:45:31 [kaz]
- i|taki:|TD/Binding|
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- Architecture
- 12:45:59 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: had discussions on dataschema and security concerns
- 12:46:11 [mlagally]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/blob/master/REQUIREMENTS.md
- 12:46:24 [mjkoster]
- ... discussed profiles and started collecting requirements
- 12:46:58 [mjkoster]
- ... have 10 issues in the repository, many involving Mozilla so we need them to be in the discussion
- 12:47:22 [mjkoster]
- mm: created a PR for ISO definitions of privacy to be merged
- 12:47:59 [mjkoster]
- ... have a release candidate tomorrow or at least by TPAC
- 12:48:31 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: please try to have this discussion when Europe is online
- 12:49:08 [mjkoster]
- mm: could do right after lunch on Friday
- 12:49:32 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: after marketing
- 12:50:17 [mjkoster]
- mm: discussed definitions in security TF
- 12:50:47 [mjkoster]
- kaz: is it OK to allocate a continuous slot?
- 12:51:11 [zkis]
- q+ let's make the resolution about scripting publication
- 12:51:46 [mjkoster]
- zkis: last PR is merged, ready to publish
- 12:51:48 [McCool]
- proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
- 12:52:41 [mjkoster]
- mm: does anyoe need to review this document?
- 12:52:41 [kaz]
- i/last PR is/mm: let's have some chat during TPAC and then make decision./
- 12:52:48 [McCool]
- resolution: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
- 12:52:52 [mjkoster]
- mm: any objections to the resolution?
- 12:52:54 [kaz]
- i/last PR is/topic: Scripting API publication/
- 12:53:02 [mjkoster]
- ... no objections, resolution passed
- 12:53:47 [mjkoster]
- taki: presenting at transportation data model workshop in Palo Alto
- 12:53:55 [mjkoster]
- ... at Uber
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- mm: please upload the presentation
- 12:54:37 [kaz]
- i/presenting/topic: AOB/
- 12:54:38 [mjkoster]
- kaz: will we have charter call tomorrow?
- 12:55:26 [mjkoster]
- mm: cancel the charter meeting tomorrow, reviewers please write feedback by TPAC
- 12:56:02 [McCool]
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- mm: meeting adjourned
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
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- 13:10:34 [mlagally]
- zakim, pick a scribe
- 13:10:34 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Lagally
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- zakim, pick a scribe
- 13:10:37 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
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- zakim, pick a scribe
- 13:10:39 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
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- zakim, pick a scribe
- 13:10:41 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Dave_Raggett
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