IRC log of wot on 2019-09-11

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Meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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Chair: McCool
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster, Taki_Kamiya, Zoltan_Kis
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present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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present+ Daniel_Peintner
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present+ Michael_Lagally
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present+ Toru_Kawaguchi
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present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_Sept_2019
12:10:55 [kaz]
zakim, pick a scribe
12:10:55 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kaz_Ashimura
12:11:06 [kaz]
zakim, pick a scribe
12:11:06 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
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present+ Takahisa_Suzuki
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present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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scribenick: mjkoster
12:11:41 [mjkoster]
topic: IG chater
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kaz: still need to get confirmation on the one month extension
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topic: resolutions
12:13:12 [mjkoster]
mm: would like to publish the security document
12:13:12 [kaz]
s/still/got approval to send the draft Charter out to AC review, and am working with the Comm Team for that. still/
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present+ Ege_Korkan
12:13:35 [mjkoster]
... and the scripting API document
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kaz: need 2 resolutions
12:13:51 [McCool]
proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
12:14:29 [mjkoster]
zkis: agree
12:15:04 [mjkoster]
zkis: one change is pending
12:16:01 [McCool]
proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as a new Working Draft
12:16:23 [McCool]
proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note
12:16:42 [mjkoster]
mm: any objections?
12:16:52 [mjkoster]
mm: no objections, resolution passed
12:16:57 [McCool]
resolution: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note
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topic: marketing
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sk: we should have a clear roadmap about how to update the W3C WoT public presence
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... the information is inconsistent and confusing to newcomers
12:19:22 [dsr]
q+
12:19:25 [kaz]
q+
12:19:37 [mjkoster]
... would like to ask dsr and kaz what is possible
12:20:18 [mjkoster]
... would like to discuss at TPAC with W3C marketing representation
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mm: we have had this issue for 2 years, agree we need a plan
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q?
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mlagally: different aspects of marketing
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... need a landing page for TPAC
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q?
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12:22:16 [mjkoster]
... we need to so some WG internal alignment and update the wiki page
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... can we do this before TPAC?
12:22:56 [kaz]
present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
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present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
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ack d
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q?
12:23:43 [mjkoster]
dsr: please collect ideas and kaz and dsr can update the landing page
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... also think about FAQ which is a longer term item
12:24:37 [zkis]
q?
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ack kaz
12:24:52 [mjkoster]
kaz: already taken an action item about joint discussion with W3C marketing team at TPAC
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-> https://www.w3.org/2019/html/ HTML WG page
12:25:51 [mjkoster]
... is this the page Sebastian is referring to?
12:26:13 [mjkoster]
mm: let's move on in the agenda at this point
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topic: logistics
12:26:34 [kaz]
i/logistics/kaz: ok
12:26:35 [mjkoster]
mm: no calls next week, what about the rest of this week
12:26:49 [mjkoster]
... what about Friday this week? Thursday?
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mlagally: prepared to have the call if people are available
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mm: we will have architecture call
12:28:02 [kaz]
s/action item about joint/action item during the Editors call one hour ago about possible joint/
12:28:20 [mjkoster]
taki: don't think we have urgent business, Ege may have some business
12:28:48 [mjkoster]
ege: only question is publication of Binding Templates document
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... only remaining issue is MQTT vocabulary
12:29:34 [mjkoster]
mm: can we discuss the current version as release candidate at TPAC
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mm: topic: observer requests
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... Dan Brickley has asked
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... will accept the requests
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topic: demo logistics
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mm: will discuss more in the next call
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... we only get one hour but htere is a table (panasonic) that will be up the whole time
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... propose a joint demo and point to the breakout session
12:31:39 [kaz]
q+
12:32:15 [mjkoster]
mlagally: for the unified demo we are informed by the online plugfest
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mm: don't know the time yet so we need to be flexible and ready
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mm: arrange to go around 3:00
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topic: please register
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kaz: already updated the wiki pages
12:34:51 [mjkoster]
... new problem, we may need to choose one or the other of demo session and breakout session
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-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_11.09.2019 PlugFest call wiki
12:35:12 [mjkoster]
mm: makes sense to ask for breakout sessions
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topic: f2f agenda
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mm: discussed the schedule at the editors call
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... list of constraints
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... trying to move things to the afternoon to accommodate Europe
12:36:32 [kaz]
i/wiki/kaz: btw, as Lagally mentioned, we need to think about a unified demo, so I've added that point to the PlugFest wiki. Let's discuss that during the PlugFest call later./
12:37:01 [mjkoster]
... if we have lunch 11-12 then we can gain another hour
12:37:47 [kaz]
i|discussed|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Thu.2C_19_Sep_2019:_Technical_Work_-_Day_1 F2F Agenda|
12:38:29 [mjkoster]
mm: need to work on UCR for profiles
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mm: hoping to get the Privacy group discussion in this slot
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... start creating bullet points and time estimates
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... we need to write down organizer names also
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mm: any other comments or problems?
12:41:33 [mjkoster]
kaz: We need to move JSON-LD from Monday/Tuesday
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mm: there is a 1/2 hour slot for a joint meeting
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s|Tuesday|Tuesday to Thursday/Friday|
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topic: tf report out
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taki: didn't have a call last week, there are some new github issues
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mm: suggest we label them for extension vs. update
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ege: merged PR to clean up references, clean enough to publish
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i|taki:|TD/Binding|
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Architecture
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mlagally: had discussions on dataschema and security concerns
12:46:11 [mlagally]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/blob/master/REQUIREMENTS.md
12:46:24 [mjkoster]
... discussed profiles and started collecting requirements
12:46:58 [mjkoster]
... have 10 issues in the repository, many involving Mozilla so we need them to be in the discussion
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mm: created a PR for ISO definitions of privacy to be merged
12:47:59 [mjkoster]
... have a release candidate tomorrow or at least by TPAC
12:48:31 [mjkoster]
mlagally: please try to have this discussion when Europe is online
12:49:08 [mjkoster]
mm: could do right after lunch on Friday
12:49:32 [mjkoster]
mlagally: after marketing
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mm: discussed definitions in security TF
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kaz: is it OK to allocate a continuous slot?
12:51:11 [zkis]
q+ let's make the resolution about scripting publication
12:51:46 [mjkoster]
zkis: last PR is merged, ready to publish
12:51:48 [McCool]
proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
12:52:41 [mjkoster]
mm: does anyoe need to review this document?
12:52:41 [kaz]
i/last PR is/mm: let's have some chat during TPAC and then make decision./
12:52:48 [McCool]
resolution: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft
12:52:52 [mjkoster]
mm: any objections to the resolution?
12:52:54 [kaz]
i/last PR is/topic: Scripting API publication/
12:53:02 [mjkoster]
... no objections, resolution passed
12:53:47 [mjkoster]
taki: presenting at transportation data model workshop in Palo Alto
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... at Uber
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mm: please upload the presentation
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i/presenting/topic: AOB/
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kaz: will we have charter call tomorrow?
12:55:26 [mjkoster]
mm: cancel the charter meeting tomorrow, reviewers please write feedback by TPAC
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mm: meeting adjourned
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:10:34 [mlagally]
zakim, pick a scribe
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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Lagally
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zakim, pick a scribe
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Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
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zakim, pick a scribe
13:10:39 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster
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zakim, pick a scribe
13:10:41 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Dave_Raggett
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