12:02:25 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:02:25 logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-irc 12:02:31 Meeting: WoT-IG/WG 12:02:35 Chair: McCool 12:03:37 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster, Taki_Kamiya, Zoltan_Kis 12:04:56 ktoumura has joined #wot 12:07:33 mlagally has joined #wot 12:07:44 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 12:08:06 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:08:28 present+ Michael_Lagally 12:08:57 present+ Toru_Kawaguchi 12:09:08 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 12:09:11 tksuzuki has joined #wot 12:10:04 mjkoster has joined #wot 12:10:06 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_Sept_2019 12:10:55 zakim, pick a scribe 12:10:55 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kaz_Ashimura 12:11:06 zakim, pick a scribe 12:11:06 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster 12:11:13 kawaguch has joined #wot 12:11:15 present+ Takahisa_Suzuki 12:11:15 sebastian has joined #wot 12:11:25 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:11:33 scribenick: mjkoster 12:11:41 topic: IG chater 12:12:09 kaz: still need to get confirmation on the one month extension 12:12:53 topic: resolutions 12:13:12 mm: would like to publish the security document 12:13:12 s/still/got approval to send the draft Charter out to AC review, and am working with the Comm Team for that. still/ 12:13:27 present+ Ege_Korkan 12:13:35 ... and the scripting API document 12:13:43 kaz: need 2 resolutions 12:13:51 proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft 12:14:29 zkis: agree 12:15:04 zkis: one change is pending 12:16:01 proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as a new Working Draft 12:16:23 proposal: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note 12:16:42 mm: any objections? 12:16:52 mm: no objections, resolution passed 12:16:57 resolution: Publish the current editor's draft of the Security and Privacy Guidelines as an updated Note 12:17:38 topic: marketing 12:18:22 Mizushima_ has joined #wot 12:18:41 sk: we should have a clear roadmap about how to update the W3C WoT public presence 12:19:02 ... the information is inconsistent and confusing to newcomers 12:19:22 q+ 12:19:25 q+ 12:19:37 ... would like to ask dsr and kaz what is possible 12:20:18 ... would like to discuss at TPAC with W3C marketing representation 12:20:39 mm: we have had this issue for 2 years, agree we need a plan 12:20:53 q? 12:21:14 mlagally: different aspects of marketing 12:21:25 ... need a landing page for TPAC 12:21:34 q? 12:21:49 matsuda has joined #wot 12:21:57 ryuichi has joined #wot 12:22:16 ... we need to so some WG internal alignment and update the wiki page 12:22:37 ... can we do this before TPAC? 12:22:56 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 12:23:07 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:23:14 ack d 12:23:15 q? 12:23:43 dsr: please collect ideas and kaz and dsr can update the landing page 12:24:07 ... also think about FAQ which is a longer term item 12:24:37 q? 12:24:43 ack kaz 12:24:52 kaz: already taken an action item about joint discussion with W3C marketing team at TPAC 12:25:10 -> https://www.w3.org/2019/html/ HTML WG page 12:25:51 ... is this the page Sebastian is referring to? 12:26:13 mm: let's move on in the agenda at this point 12:26:19 topic: logistics 12:26:34 i/logistics/kaz: ok 12:26:35 mm: no calls next week, what about the rest of this week 12:26:49 ... what about Friday this week? Thursday? 12:27:09 mlagally: prepared to have the call if people are available 12:27:36 mm: we will have architecture call 12:28:02 s/action item about joint/action item during the Editors call one hour ago about possible joint/ 12:28:20 taki: don't think we have urgent business, Ege may have some business 12:28:48 ege: only question is publication of Binding Templates document 12:29:08 ... only remaining issue is MQTT vocabulary 12:29:34 mm: can we discuss the current version as release candidate at TPAC 12:29:53 mm: topic: observer requests 12:30:08 ... Dan Brickley has asked 12:30:41 ... will accept the requests 12:30:48 topic: demo logistics 12:30:57 mm: will discuss more in the next call 12:31:22 ... we only get one hour but htere is a table (panasonic) that will be up the whole time 12:31:36 ... propose a joint demo and point to the breakout session 12:31:39 q+ 12:32:15 mlagally: for the unified demo we are informed by the online plugfest 12:32:41 mm: don't know the time yet so we need to be flexible and ready 12:32:54 mm: arrange to go around 3:00 12:33:08 topic: please register 12:33:33 kaz: already updated the wiki pages 12:34:51 ... new problem, we may need to choose one or the other of demo session and breakout session 12:35:03 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_11.09.2019 PlugFest call wiki 12:35:12 mm: makes sense to ask for breakout sessions 12:35:29 topic: f2f agenda 12:35:47 mm: discussed the schedule at the editors call 12:36:09 ... list of constraints 12:36:31 ... trying to move things to the afternoon to accommodate Europe 12:36:32 i/wiki/kaz: btw, as Lagally mentioned, we need to think about a unified demo, so I've added that point to the PlugFest wiki. Let's discuss that during the PlugFest call later./ 12:37:01 ... if we have lunch 11-12 then we can gain another hour 12:37:47 i|discussed|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Thu.2C_19_Sep_2019:_Technical_Work_-_Day_1 F2F Agenda| 12:38:29 mm: need to work on UCR for profiles 12:39:02 mm: hoping to get the Privacy group discussion in this slot 12:40:08 ... start creating bullet points and time estimates 12:40:30 ... we need to write down organizer names also 12:41:01 mm: any other comments or problems? 12:41:33 kaz: We need to move JSON-LD from Monday/Tuesday 12:41:59 mm: there is a 1/2 hour slot for a joint meeting 12:42:57 s|Tuesday|Tuesday to Thursday/Friday| 12:43:59 topic: tf report out 12:44:30 taki: didn't have a call last week, there are some new github issues 12:44:51 mm: suggest we label them for extension vs. update 12:45:17 ege: merged PR to clean up references, clean enough to publish 12:45:31 i|taki:|TD/Binding| 12:45:45 Architecture 12:45:59 mlagally: had discussions on dataschema and security concerns 12:46:11 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/blob/master/REQUIREMENTS.md 12:46:24 ... discussed profiles and started collecting requirements 12:46:58 ... have 10 issues in the repository, many involving Mozilla so we need them to be in the discussion 12:47:22 mm: created a PR for ISO definitions of privacy to be merged 12:47:59 ... have a release candidate tomorrow or at least by TPAC 12:48:31 mlagally: please try to have this discussion when Europe is online 12:49:08 mm: could do right after lunch on Friday 12:49:32 mlagally: after marketing 12:50:17 mm: discussed definitions in security TF 12:50:47 kaz: is it OK to allocate a continuous slot? 12:51:11 q+ let's make the resolution about scripting publication 12:51:46 zkis: last PR is merged, ready to publish 12:51:48 proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft 12:52:41 mm: does anyoe need to review this document? 12:52:41 i/last PR is/mm: let's have some chat during TPAC and then make decision./ 12:52:48 resolution: publish the current editor's draft of the Scripting API as a new Working Draft 12:52:52 mm: any objections to the resolution? 12:52:54 i/last PR is/topic: Scripting API publication/ 12:53:02 ... no objections, resolution passed 12:53:47 taki: presenting at transportation data model workshop in Palo Alto 12:53:55 ... at Uber 12:54:11 mm: please upload the presentation 12:54:37 i/presenting/topic: AOB/ 12:54:38 kaz: will we have charter call tomorrow? 12:55:26 mm: cancel the charter meeting tomorrow, reviewers please write feedback by TPAC 12:56:02 McCool has left #wot 12:56:05 mm: meeting adjourned 12:56:08 ege has joined #wot 12:56:46 tksuzuki has left #wot 13:00:25 kaz has joined #wot 13:00:51 rrsagent, make log public 13:00:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:04:53 taki has left #wot 13:10:34 zakim, pick a scribe 13:10:34 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Lagally 13:10:37 zakim, pick a scribe 13:10:37 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster 13:10:39 zakim, pick a scribe 13:10:39 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Michael_Koster 13:10:41 zakim, pick a scribe 13:10:41 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Dave_Raggett 13:56:41 dape has left #wot 14:55:53 zkis has joined #wot 15:37:59 Zakim has left #wot 18:23:45 zkis has joined #wot 19:02:22 zkis has joined #wot 19:38:53 zkis_ has joined #wot 19:50:10 zkis_ has joined #wot