IRC log of dxwg on 2019-09-10
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-dxwg-irc
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- meeting: DXWG Plenary Sept 10 2019
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- agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.09.10
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- chair: Karen Coyle
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- regrets+ Simon Cox, Nick Car, Peter Winstanley, Alejandra, Antoine
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- present+ kcoyle
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-dxwg-minutes.html kcoyle
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- minutes happening here: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-dxwg-minutes.html
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
- 20:08:57 [kcoyle]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.09.10
- 20:09:46 [kcoyle]
- previous meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dxwg-minutes
- 20:10:20 [dsr]
- scibenick: dsr
- 20:10:21 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 20:10:21 [AndreaPerego]
- +1 to approve them
- 20:10:22 [TomB_]
- +1
- 20:10:28 [kcoyle]
- +1
- 20:10:37 [roba]
- +0
- 20:10:44 [annette_g]
- +0 (wasn't there)
- 20:10:56 [DaveBrowning]
- 0 (wasn't there)
- 20:11:04 [AndreaPerego]
- resolved: previous meeting minutes approved https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dxwg-minutes
- 20:11:27 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 20:11:49 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: DCAT CR
- 20:11:56 [dsr]
- Karen asks DaveBrowning for an update on where we are on DCAT
- 20:12:12 [dsr]
- DaveBrowning: we should be starting the WG review now
- 20:12:33 [DaveBrowning]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Adcat+milestone%3A%22DCAT+CR%22
- 20:13:02 [DaveBrowning]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Adcat+label%3Acritical+milestone%3A%22DCAT+CR%22
- 20:13:04 [dsr]
- The link shows the 12 open issues.
- 20:13:19 [dsr]
- We triaged issues following advice from PLH
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- Karen asks about issues marked critical
- 20:14:42 [dsr]
- DaveBrowning: we need to address at least 2 of them during the WG review
- 20:15:33 [dsr]
- Karen: if PLH is able to join us we should think what process questions we have for him
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- DaveBrowning: some questions around editorial matters, but nothing serious
- 20:17:30 [dsr]
- On 1055, an active conversation there, and pressure to get that it
- 20:17:59 [dsr]
- Karen: from the time that you give it to the WG, then the editor’s shouldn’t make substantive changes after that
- 20:19:05 [dsr]
- If there are issues that are really substantial then we have a problem …
- 20:19:43 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- I agree, I wouldn't open that discussion again, we have some consensus we should preserve :)
- 20:19:52 [dsr]
- We need to shut the door on this version of DCAT if we’re to move it to REC
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- Karen: is the DCAT task force meeting tomorrow?
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- DaveBrowning: I am not sure that we need to
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- DaveBrowning: I may send out a pointer to a branch rather than pointing to the editor’s draft
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- rrsagent, set logs public
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- chair: Karen
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- scribe DaveRaggett
- 20:22:47 [AndreaPerego]
- s/scribe DaveRaggett/scribe: DaveRaggett/
- 20:23:10 [kcoyle]
- resolved: DCAT editor's draft as of this moment is the draft the WG will review and vote on
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- ACTION: on kcoyle, everyone to review DCAT
- 20:23:32 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
- 20:23:48 [kcoyle]
- ACTION: kcoyle, everyone to review DCAT
- 20:23:48 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'kcoyle,'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
- 20:24:17 [kcoyle]
- ACTION: kcoyle to send email to public list with link
- 20:24:17 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-367 - Send email to public list with link [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
- 20:24:39 [kcoyle]
- ACTION: DaveBrowning send email to public list with any additional instruction or helpful information
- 20:24:39 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-368 - Send email to public list with any additional instruction or helpful information [on David Browning - due 2019-09-17].
- 20:25:20 [AndreaPerego]
- ACTION: kcoyle to ask everyone to review DCAT
- 20:25:21 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-369 - Ask everyone to review dcat [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
- 20:26:10 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:26:29 [dsr]
- Karen: have you tracked the external feedback you have had so far ?
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- DaveBrowning: yes
- 20:26:42 [AndreaPerego]
- scribenick: dsr
- 20:26:44 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:27:01 [kcoyle]
- ACTION: kcoyle to ask philippe what proof is needed for wide review
- 20:27:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-370 - Ask philippe what proof is needed for wide review [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
- 20:27:18 [kcoyle]
- q?
- 20:27:59 [dsr]
- Karen: DCAT is pretty much wrapped up, that’s really good!
- 20:28:20 [dsr]
- DaveBrowning: CONNEG isn’t quite so far along with 90 open issues
- 20:28:23 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:28:35 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: CONNEG
- 20:28:59 [dsr]
- roba: I can speak to this as Nick isn’t available today
- 20:29:22 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:30:07 [dsr]
- Karen: I see the Ruben made a pull request on tokens
- 20:30:49 [dsr]
- roba: yes, and we ended up agreeing on a mechanism that doesn’t interfere with the IETF draft by using a different header
- 20:31:13 [dsr]
- roba: I need to agree to the pull request, but don’t forsee a problem
- 20:31:43 [dsr]
- Karen: we need a final version by next Tuesday to go to the WG for wide review
- 20:32:08 [dsr]
- I will ask PLH for just what is meant by wide review
- 20:32:29 [dsr]
- Getting CONNEG to CR is going to be tough
- 20:32:50 [dsr]
- … given the time limitations for the charter
- 20:33:42 [dsr]
- roba: there’s been quite a lot of clean up in response to external feedback
- 20:34:20 [dsr]
- … but it hasb’
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- hasn’t changed substantively
- 20:35:37 [dsr]
- roba: I think we’ve dealt with all the critical issues in the last few months
- 20:35:59 [dsr]
- As an implementor I am reasonably happy with the spec
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- Karen: I don’t recall a wide public review recently
- 20:37:03 [dsr]
- roba: that depends on what you mean by that
- 20:37:39 [dsr]
- Karen: we need to show that the wider W3C community has looked at it
- 20:38:27 [dsr]
- If PLH doesn’t make it to this call, I will contact him separately
- 20:38:55 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:39:06 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: PROF
- 20:39:09 [dsr]
- Karen: please let the CONNEG team know that the DXWG main group needs a version to review to sign off on.
- 20:39:21 [kcoyle]
- q?
- 20:39:49 [dsr]
- Karen asks roba for an status report on PROF
- 20:40:12 [dsr]
- roba: the main issue is the naming of roles and whether these should be left to the future
- 20:40:57 [dsr]
- No substantive changes to the vocabulary itself
- 20:42:01 [dsr]
- Karen: I see 76 open issues, a few of which are marked as editorial
- 20:42:19 [dsr]
- roba: only one critical issue …
- 20:43:40 [dsr]
- many of the issues are rambling discussions
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- Karen recommends getting back to the people who make comments to see that their issues have been addressed properly
- 20:44:56 [dsr]
- roba: we indeed have been doing so
- 20:46:29 [dsr]
- Karen: you have one week to produce the version for the group as a whole to review
- 20:47:27 [dsr]
- we need evidence on the contact with the external reviewers to show how their feedback was handled
- 20:47:51 [dsr]
- Minor editorial changes can be made later, even after it has gone to CR
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- Karen refers to the AC review following exiting from CR
- 20:48:37 [DaveBrowning]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:49:25 [roba]
- q+
- 20:49:33 [dsr]
- ack roba
- 20:49:34 [kcoyle]
- ack roba
- 20:49:55 [TomB_]
- no comment!
- 20:50:07 [dsr]
- roba: profile guidance is by its nature guidance and hence should be a WG Note
- 20:50:07 [annette_g]
- +1
- 20:50:34 [dsr]
- Karen: the full group still needs to sign off on WG Notes
- 20:51:10 [dsr]
- Karen: any other business? [no]
- 20:51:32 [dsr]
- we will chat again next week
- 20:51:43 [annette_g]
- thanks all!
- 20:51:44 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- Thanks, bye
- 20:51:47 [dsr]
- please look out for emails on review deadlines.
- 20:51:47 [roba]
- bye
- 20:51:52 [dsr]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:51:52 [TomB_]
- thanks all
- 20:57:42 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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