IRC log of COGA on 2019-09-05
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- Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 05 September 2019
- 13:38:15 [LisaSeemanKest]
- agenda?
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- agenda+ actions - see https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Actions
- 13:39:18 [LisaSeemanKest]
- agenda+ priorities at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YH4YETBmAdhfL9p8FK5ATUiXDGibeJh66psQCSUAvLQ/edit#gid=0
- 13:39:59 [LisaSeemanKest]
- agenda+ editing update at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rt51xg57oZW56mfTw_t33T9zlPDOV7o4Za6veCCqDtI/edit#gid=0
- 13:40:31 [LisaSeemanKest]
- agenda+ silver feedback https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2019Sep/0010.html
- 13:41:20 [LisaSeemanKest]
- agenda+ persona todo list : https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Persona_to_do_list
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- regrets: John R. Abi
- 13:45:21 [Fazio]
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- 13:57:40 [stevelee_]
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- 13:59:24 [Rachael]
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- 14:00:51 [Jennie]
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- 14:02:44 [LisaSeemanKest]
- scribe: stevelee_
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- zakim, next item
- 14:02:57 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "actions - see https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Actions" taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
- 14:03:01 [Fazio]
- present+
- 14:03:15 [stevelee_]
- present+
- 14:04:20 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: added priorities to the planning page
- 14:05:19 [stevelee_]
- steve: will update personas tomorrow
- 14:06:06 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: will add action for Lisa / Rachael to work on Web Design Guide
- 14:06:35 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: WCAG 2.2 going well
- 14:07:11 [stevelee_]
- ... TPAC will see heavy reviewing so would be good to get the SCs ready for that
- 14:07:44 [stevelee_]
- David: good discussion and some debate about overlap with others items
- 14:08:58 [stevelee_]
- ... eg failure techniques are educational purposes not just for law. But no blockers
- 14:10:15 [stevelee_]
- Rachael: feels is raady for TPAC, David agrees
- 14:12:31 [stevelee_]
- rachael: will send email explaining what we need to be ready for TPAC
- 14:13:40 [stevelee_]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/WCAG_2.2_Success_Criteria_Groups
- 14:15:15 [stevelee_]
- Rachael: will clarify what action on Steve creating feedback tab is.
- 14:15:25 [LisaSeemanKest]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rt51xg57oZW56mfTw_t33T9zlPDOV7o4Za6veCCqDtI/edit#gid=2019648557
- 14:16:26 [Jennie]
- q+
- 14:18:28 [Rachael]
- q+
- 14:18:43 [LisaSeemanKest]
- ach je
- 14:18:55 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: we are working on Content Usable mapping - including needs across all docs
- 14:20:59 [Jennie]
- ack Jennie
- 14:23:38 [stevelee_]
- Jennie: notes this is in table and where cells are blank Assistive Tech may be confused
- 14:23:56 [stevelee_]
- ... suggest adding some text in empty cell to aid orientation / understabding
- 14:24:31 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: pleased jeniie raised as highlights a spreadsheet is not a good base format
- 14:24:47 [stevelee_]
- s/jeniie/jennie
- 14:24:56 [LisaSeemanKest]
- q?
- 14:26:56 [Jennie]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lWTTYjzoCDx6goBCMH7pI72nsuIGu35JDu1hYGlyCwY/edit#gid=0
- 14:26:57 [stevelee_]
- rachael: Need tab in spreadsheet to tack changes and feedback
- 14:26:58 [Rachael]
- ack rach
- 14:27:49 [stevelee_]
- Jennie: link is to new glossary suggestions spread sheet - see above
- 14:28:10 [stevelee_]
- ... request for confirmation that is what we want for the glossary
- 14:28:51 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: is great to have the exaple to see if this is a good format
- 14:29:34 [stevelee_]
- ... is clear that needs a picture to make it clear to people external to the TF
- 14:31:12 [stevelee_]
- ... maybe a short definition for our use and longer general one?
- 14:34:39 [stevelee_]
- steve: possibly add new column for link to our personas
- 14:37:42 [stevelee_]
- Jennie: need to consider focus so add Persona link to wards end of rows.
- 14:38:07 [stevelee_]
- Steve: do we need long definition as could just have enough for our documents
- 14:38:26 [LisaSeemanKest]
- q?
- 14:38:44 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: people might need need more detailed explanation
- 14:40:29 [stevelee_]
- Jennie: popups and full non technical definition might work
- 14:41:29 [stevelee_]
- Jannie: are the a resonable number of characters available in tools?
- 14:44:04 [Jennie]
- +1, as long as we have an idea of character numbers if we are going to have a way to use it
- 14:44:18 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: should we add a short lang version
- 14:44:55 [stevelee_]
- ... can add them later
- 14:46:47 [LisaSeemanKest]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "priorities at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YH4YETBmAdhfL9p8FK5ATUiXDGibeJh66psQCSUAvLQ/edit#gid=0" taken up [from LisaSeemanKest]
- 14:46:49 [LisaSeemanKest]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YH4YETBmAdhfL9p8FK5ATUiXDGibeJh66psQCSUAvLQ/edit#gid=0
- 14:47:15 [EA]
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- 14:47:33 [stevelee_]
- lisa: did this to help coordinate co-chair work, then decided to share as is useful
- 14:49:32 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: all are important and will not reject work but will not gove it time every week unless high priority
- 14:52:22 [Jennie]
- Thank you for helping us track the action items, Lisa!
- 14:54:47 [LisaSeemanKest]
- Q?
- 14:56:14 [LisaSeemanKest]
- Q?
- 14:56:43 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: please take a week to think about the priorities and let us know if anything is important
- 14:58:16 [Fazio]
- q+
- 14:58:19 [Rachael]
- q+
- 14:58:36 [Jennie]
- * Have to drop off for another meeting. Talk to you next week.
- 14:59:20 [Rachael]
- Suggest: Change column B label to Priorities
- 14:59:31 [laura]
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- 15:00:28 [stevelee_]
- EA: seems a lot of priorities!
- 15:00:53 [stevelee_]
- Lisa: up to row 12 is year 1 and rest is later
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- ... add a breaking row to make it clearer.
- 15:01:24 [Rachael]
- ack rach
- 15:01:46 [LisaSeemanKest]
- q?
- 15:02:43 [stevelee_]
- david: Utah Tredavis (ORCAD) has done a lot of AI work which may be worth exploring
- 15:02:56 [stevelee_]
- EA: amazing work but not sure how it links to our work
- 15:03:12 [stevelee_]
- david: we could contact them
- 15:03:27 [LisaSeemanKest]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2019Sep/0007.html
- 15:04:25 [Fazio]
- Its OCADU
- 15:05:00 [Rachael]
- present+
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- As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, stevelee_, Rachael
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