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12:01:56 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_Sept_2019
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12:07:18 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Kaz_Ashimura, Taki_Kamiya, Michael_Koster
12:07:25 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally
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12:10:56 <kaz> scribenick: mjkoster
12:11:17 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:11:23 <McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_Sept_2019
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12:12:16 <mjkoster> mm: next face to face in Singapore in conjunction with IETF
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12:12:58 <mjkoster> ... 13th and 14th meeting, joint workshop on hte 15th, and IETF hackathon on the 16th and 17th
12:13:14 <mjkoster> mm: working on a draft for discovery
12:13:30 <mjkoster> topic: IG draft charter
12:13:45 <kaz> i/next face to/topic: Quick updated/
12:13:46 <mjkoster> kaz: sent the draft charter to W3C
12:13:53 <kaz> s/to W3C/to W3M/
12:14:02 <mjkoster> mm: we should know about any issues by tomorrow
12:14:30 <mjkoster> ... We should discuss process and schedule for PR transition
12:15:12 <mjkoster> kaz: process is first make a resolution in this group, send it to W3C, then there is a one week period
12:15:25 <mjkoster> ... after we finalize all of the comments
12:15:32 <kaz> s/send it to W3C/send it to the Director/
12:15:44 <kaz> s/period/period to get approval/
12:16:03 <mjkoster> mm: we can technically proceed at this point, we could plan to make the resolution at TPAC
12:16:08 <kaz> s/comments/comments specifically the ones from TAG and PING/
12:16:40 <mjkoster> mlagally: won't be able to attend TPAC so need to dial in
12:17:00 <mjkoster> kaz: we will provide webex as usual
12:17:03 <kaz> action: kaz to allocate a webex for TPAC f2f
12:17:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-180 - Allocate a webex for tpac f2f [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2019-09-11].
12:17:45 <mjkoster> mm: gives us 2 weeks to clean everything up
12:18:10 <mjkoster> topic: WG charter
12:18:25 <mjkoster> mm: there is a draft out and a PR on the table
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12:19:05 <mjkoster> ... (reviewing the document on-screen)
12:19:09 <zkis> present+ Zoltan_Kis
12:19:20 <kaz> -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-charter-draft-2019.html Draft WG Charter
12:19:28 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
12:19:44 <kaz> present+ Takahisa_Suzuki
12:19:51 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
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12:20:19 <mjkoster> mm: updated the completion times based on thinking through
12:21:11 <mjkoster> ... people should look at the schedule and see if it makes sense
12:21:56 <mjkoster> ... working on a draft of use cases and requirements for discovery to review at TPAC
12:22:51 <mjkoster> ... we could start working under the new charter as soon as November
12:23:38 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/862 Round 2 PR
12:23:43 <mjkoster> ... specifically need review from mlagally on some changes
12:23:54 <kaz> -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/mmccool/wot/wg-charter-draft/charters/wot-wg-charter-draft-2019.html?env=dev Rendered version
12:24:30 <mjkoster> ... please review and make comments that we can incorporate by TPAC
12:24:56 <mjkoster> topic: F2F logistics
12:25:30 <mjkoster> mm: everyone please register now
12:25:52 <mjkoster> kaz: no need to register if you're not attending in person
12:26:08 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2019/registrants#meeting-92 WoT registrants
12:26:32 <mjkoster> mm: we also need to accept observers; we have 74 requests to observe
12:26:44 <kaz> regrets+ Dave_Raggett
12:27:04 <mjkoster> ... by default we can accept everyone, unless there are specific objections to individuals on the list
12:27:26 <mjkoster> ... please look through the list if you have any concerns
12:28:04 <mjkoster> ... please reply to mm within 24 hours
12:28:51 <mjkoster> topic: demo logistics
12:29:17 <mjkoster> kaz: updated the demo page with time slots
12:30:01 <mjkoster> mm: will be busy during some of the time slots for the chair's lunch from 12:00 to 1:30
12:30:41 <mjkoster> mm: (editing the schedule)
12:31:09 <mjkoster> kaz: we could use these time slots for plenary sessions
12:32:18 <mjkoster> kaz: please register for the plugfest
12:32:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201909/ plugfest pref on sunday
12:33:05 <kaz> s/pref/prep/
12:33:26 <mjkoster> topic: F2F agenda
12:33:31 <kaz> s/for the plugfest/for the plugfest preparation on Sunday at Fujitsu/
12:33:49 <mjkoster> mm: what are the topics and constraints?
12:34:04 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan F2F wiki
12:35:11 <mjkoster> mm: JSON-LD is Monday and Tuesday, also the DID meeting on Tuesday
12:35:49 <mjkoster> ... we should collect volunteers to attend the other group meetings
12:36:54 <mjkoster> mm: when could we schedule a joint meeting with JSON-LD?
12:37:14 <mjkoster> daniel: will discuss with Sebastian on Monday when he returns
12:38:10 <kaz> q+
12:38:27 <mjkoster> mm: (reviewing the list of topics)
12:38:35 <mjkoster> q?
12:39:15 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Topics Topic list
12:41:55 <mjkoster> mm: (reviewing conflicts and time constraints, who is not going to be there in person)
12:43:14 <mjkoster> mm: for remote participants, please indicate which topics are priority
12:43:38 <mjkoster> mm: go ahead and start grabbing time slots for the joint meetings now
12:44:10 <kaz> ack k
12:44:28 <mjkoster> kaz: got a request for use case proposal presentation
12:44:55 <mjkoster> topic: online plugfest
12:45:12 <mjkoster> mm: date is september 10th
12:45:31 <mjkoster> ... optimal times seem to be 4-5pm Japan time
12:46:02 <mjkoster> ... but there is no response from Mozilla, and the times are not good for Pacific time
12:46:22 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/6env3p8vk5nfazwr Doodle for time
12:47:00 <mjkoster> mm: are the times OK for Siemens?
12:47:46 <kaz> (fyi, 3pm JST is 11pm-1d PDT, 8am CEST)
12:47:47 <mjkoster> mlagally: Ben Francis is in UK, so the time may not be so bad for Mozilla
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12:48:14 <mjkoster> mlagally: suggest a 3 hour slot at 4pm
12:48:38 <kaz> (fyi, 4pm JST is midnight-1d PDT, 9am CEST)
12:50:01 <mjkoster> mm: mlagally please send out an email
12:50:21 <mjkoster> topic: TF reports
12:51:47 <mjkoster> TD: taki: reviewed Github issues that are mostly editorial
12:52:21 <mjkoster> ege: binding templates, closed 4 open issues and merged the base changes
12:52:39 <mjkoster> ... we can now work on the working going forward
12:52:53 <mjkoster> mm: when can we publish another draft?
12:53:44 <mjkoster> s/working/changes/
12:54:49 <mjkoster> ege: we can publish the current version after a few updates to the references
12:56:04 <mjkoster> mlagally: (architecture) went through the issues and reviewed the profile draft
12:56:14 <mjkoster> ... looking into protocol bindings
12:57:08 <mjkoster> mm: planning to reschedule the security call 2 hours earlier, to the hour before the scripting call
12:57:19 <mjkoster> mm: AOB?
12:57:34 <zkis> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/183#issuecomment-527121149
12:58:19 <mjkoster> zkis: looking for input on subscriptions from mjkoster and matthias
12:59:43 <mjkoster> zkis: we should publish the WG note at this point
13:00:14 <mjkoster> mm: plan for the resolution on publication of the Scripting API document next week
13:00:20 <kaz> q+
13:00:29 <dape> q+
13:01:16 <mjkoster> kaz: there is publication moratorium from September 11th until September 24th
13:01:28 <mjkoster> s/11th/12th
13:01:48 <kaz> ack k
13:01:51 <kaz> q?
13:02:45 <mjkoster> dape: added future topic for updating the IG web page
13:02:58 <mjkoster> mm: please make a proposal
13:03:33 <mjkoster> mm: adjourn
13:03:48 <kaz> ml: PlugFest call will use this WebEx, and will use "#wot-pf" IRC channel
13:03:58 <kaz> mm: will resume in 10 mins
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13:04:09 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:04:26 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:04:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz
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