IRC log of wot on 2019-09-04
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-wot-irc
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- Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_Sept_2019
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- present+ Michael_McCool, Kaz_Ashimura, Taki_Kamiya, Michael_Koster
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- present+ Michael_Lagally
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- scribenick: mjkoster
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- present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
- 12:11:23 [McCool]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_Sept_2019
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- mm: next face to face in Singapore in conjunction with IETF
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- 12:12:39 [matsuda]
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- 12:12:58 [mjkoster]
- ... 13th and 14th meeting, joint workshop on hte 15th, and IETF hackathon on the 16th and 17th
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- mm: working on a draft for discovery
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- topic: IG draft charter
- 12:13:45 [kaz]
- i/next face to/topic: Quick updated/
- 12:13:46 [mjkoster]
- kaz: sent the draft charter to W3C
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- s/to W3C/to W3M/
- 12:14:02 [mjkoster]
- mm: we should know about any issues by tomorrow
- 12:14:30 [mjkoster]
- ... We should discuss process and schedule for PR transition
- 12:15:12 [mjkoster]
- kaz: process is first make a resolution in this group, send it to W3C, then there is a one week period
- 12:15:25 [mjkoster]
- ... after we finalize all of the comments
- 12:15:32 [kaz]
- s/send it to W3C/send it to the Director/
- 12:15:44 [kaz]
- s/period/period to get approval/
- 12:16:03 [mjkoster]
- mm: we can technically proceed at this point, we could plan to make the resolution at TPAC
- 12:16:08 [kaz]
- s/comments/comments specifically the ones from TAG and PING/
- 12:16:40 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: won't be able to attend TPAC so need to dial in
- 12:17:00 [mjkoster]
- kaz: we will provide webex as usual
- 12:17:03 [kaz]
- action: kaz to allocate a webex for TPAC f2f
- 12:17:03 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-180 - Allocate a webex for tpac f2f [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2019-09-11].
- 12:17:45 [mjkoster]
- mm: gives us 2 weeks to clean everything up
- 12:18:10 [mjkoster]
- topic: WG charter
- 12:18:25 [mjkoster]
- mm: there is a draft out and a PR on the table
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- ... (reviewing the document on-screen)
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- present+ Zoltan_Kis
- 12:19:20 [kaz]
- -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-charter-draft-2019.html Draft WG Charter
- 12:19:28 [kaz]
- present+ Ege_Korkan
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- present+ Takahisa_Suzuki
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- present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
- 12:19:53 [ege]
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- present+ Toru_Kawaguchi
- 12:20:19 [mjkoster]
- mm: updated the completion times based on thinking through
- 12:21:11 [mjkoster]
- ... people should look at the schedule and see if it makes sense
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- ... working on a draft of use cases and requirements for discovery to review at TPAC
- 12:22:51 [mjkoster]
- ... we could start working under the new charter as soon as November
- 12:23:38 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/862 Round 2 PR
- 12:23:43 [mjkoster]
- ... specifically need review from mlagally on some changes
- 12:23:54 [kaz]
- -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/mmccool/wot/wg-charter-draft/charters/wot-wg-charter-draft-2019.html?env=dev Rendered version
- 12:24:30 [mjkoster]
- ... please review and make comments that we can incorporate by TPAC
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- topic: F2F logistics
- 12:25:30 [mjkoster]
- mm: everyone please register now
- 12:25:52 [mjkoster]
- kaz: no need to register if you're not attending in person
- 12:26:08 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2019/registrants#meeting-92 WoT registrants
- 12:26:32 [mjkoster]
- mm: we also need to accept observers; we have 74 requests to observe
- 12:26:44 [kaz]
- regrets+ Dave_Raggett
- 12:27:04 [mjkoster]
- ... by default we can accept everyone, unless there are specific objections to individuals on the list
- 12:27:26 [mjkoster]
- ... please look through the list if you have any concerns
- 12:28:04 [mjkoster]
- ... please reply to mm within 24 hours
- 12:28:51 [mjkoster]
- topic: demo logistics
- 12:29:17 [mjkoster]
- kaz: updated the demo page with time slots
- 12:30:01 [mjkoster]
- mm: will be busy during some of the time slots for the chair's lunch from 12:00 to 1:30
- 12:30:41 [mjkoster]
- mm: (editing the schedule)
- 12:31:09 [mjkoster]
- kaz: we could use these time slots for plenary sessions
- 12:32:18 [mjkoster]
- kaz: please register for the plugfest
- 12:32:36 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201909/ plugfest pref on sunday
- 12:33:05 [kaz]
- s/pref/prep/
- 12:33:26 [mjkoster]
- topic: F2F agenda
- 12:33:31 [kaz]
- s/for the plugfest/for the plugfest preparation on Sunday at Fujitsu/
- 12:33:49 [mjkoster]
- mm: what are the topics and constraints?
- 12:34:04 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan F2F wiki
- 12:35:11 [mjkoster]
- mm: JSON-LD is Monday and Tuesday, also the DID meeting on Tuesday
- 12:35:49 [mjkoster]
- ... we should collect volunteers to attend the other group meetings
- 12:36:54 [mjkoster]
- mm: when could we schedule a joint meeting with JSON-LD?
- 12:37:14 [mjkoster]
- daniel: will discuss with Sebastian on Monday when he returns
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- q+
- 12:38:27 [mjkoster]
- mm: (reviewing the list of topics)
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- q?
- 12:39:15 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Topics Topic list
- 12:41:55 [mjkoster]
- mm: (reviewing conflicts and time constraints, who is not going to be there in person)
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- mm: for remote participants, please indicate which topics are priority
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- mm: go ahead and start grabbing time slots for the joint meetings now
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- ack k
- 12:44:28 [mjkoster]
- kaz: got a request for use case proposal presentation
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- topic: online plugfest
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- mm: date is september 10th
- 12:45:31 [mjkoster]
- ... optimal times seem to be 4-5pm Japan time
- 12:46:02 [mjkoster]
- ... but there is no response from Mozilla, and the times are not good for Pacific time
- 12:46:22 [kaz]
- -> https://doodle.com/poll/6env3p8vk5nfazwr Doodle for time
- 12:47:00 [mjkoster]
- mm: are the times OK for Siemens?
- 12:47:46 [kaz]
- (fyi, 3pm JST is 11pm-1d PDT, 8am CEST)
- 12:47:47 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: Ben Francis is in UK, so the time may not be so bad for Mozilla
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- mlagally: suggest a 3 hour slot at 4pm
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- (fyi, 4pm JST is midnight-1d PDT, 9am CEST)
- 12:50:01 [mjkoster]
- mm: mlagally please send out an email
- 12:50:21 [mjkoster]
- topic: TF reports
- 12:51:47 [mjkoster]
- TD: taki: reviewed Github issues that are mostly editorial
- 12:52:21 [mjkoster]
- ege: binding templates, closed 4 open issues and merged the base changes
- 12:52:39 [mjkoster]
- ... we can now work on the working going forward
- 12:52:53 [mjkoster]
- mm: when can we publish another draft?
- 12:53:44 [mjkoster]
- s/working/changes/
- 12:54:49 [mjkoster]
- ege: we can publish the current version after a few updates to the references
- 12:56:04 [mjkoster]
- mlagally: (architecture) went through the issues and reviewed the profile draft
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- ... looking into protocol bindings
- 12:57:08 [mjkoster]
- mm: planning to reschedule the security call 2 hours earlier, to the hour before the scripting call
- 12:57:19 [mjkoster]
- mm: AOB?
- 12:57:34 [zkis]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/183#issuecomment-527121149
- 12:58:19 [mjkoster]
- zkis: looking for input on subscriptions from mjkoster and matthias
- 12:59:43 [mjkoster]
- zkis: we should publish the WG note at this point
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- mm: plan for the resolution on publication of the Scripting API document next week
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- q+
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- q+
- 13:01:16 [mjkoster]
- kaz: there is publication moratorium from September 11th until September 24th
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- s/11th/12th
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- ack k
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- q?
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- dape: added future topic for updating the IG web page
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- mm: please make a proposal
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- mm: adjourn
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- ml: PlugFest call will use this WebEx, and will use "#wot-pf" IRC channel
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- mm: will resume in 10 mins
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- ml: meaning 13 mins past the hour
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- [adjourned]
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz
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