IRC log of dxwgdcat on 2019-09-04
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- Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 September 2019
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- meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 4 September 2019 20:00 UTC
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- agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.09.04
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- regrets+ Alejandra, Simon Cox
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- chair: DaveBrowning
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- rrsagent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning
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- present+
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- 20:01:39 [riccardoAlbertoni]
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- present+
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- present+
- 20:02:57 [AndreaPerego]
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- rrsagent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning
- 20:05:14 [AndreaPerego]
- present+
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- scribenick: AndreaPerego
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- topic: Approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 20:08:41 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 20:09:12 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 20:09:39 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +0 ( i was not there )
- 20:10:24 [DaveBrowning]
- +1
- 20:11:03 [PWinstanley]
- +1
- 20:11:11 [AndreaPerego]
- resolved: Approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 20:11:25 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 20:11:43 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: Plenary poll?
- 20:12:13 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +q
- 20:12:18 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: AndreaPerego, riccardoAlbertoni, you were at the plenary yesterday. Did this topic come up?
- 20:12:26 [DaveBrowning]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 20:12:57 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: This was somehow implied, although not explicitly discussed.
- 20:13:44 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: The main point in last week plenary was about what we marked as features at risk, and why.
- 20:14:27 [AndreaPerego]
- PWinstanley: We already had a poll to go to CR.
- 20:14:43 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Yes, but in the last meeting the idea of an additional poll was raised.
- 20:14:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +q
- 20:14:54 [AndreaPerego]
- PWinstanley: I can take care of set it up.
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- topic: What we need to address before we are ready to go
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- q-
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- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Steps-to-Recommendation-2019
- 20:16:01 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: plh mentioned editing some metadata, but I don't remember precisely what this is about.
- 20:16:31 [AndreaPerego]
- ... The question is whether there are substantial steps we have to go through.
- 20:16:32 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- q+
- 20:16:38 [DaveBrowning]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 20:17:02 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: I don't think we are going to have substantial changes, as new classes/properties.
- 20:17:25 [AndreaPerego]
- ... About issues in ttl files, are they to be considered as substantial?
- 20:17:48 [AndreaPerego]
- ... As only the spec is considered normative, this shouldn't be the case.
- 20:18:16 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Yes, the ttl files are not normative.
- 20:18:37 [AndreaPerego]
- ... So, we can work on them even after we go CR with the spec.
- 20:19:30 [AndreaPerego]
- ... About ttl files, the issue is rather the URLs of the new and original DCAT ttl files.
- 20:20:58 [AndreaPerego]
- ... Said all that, when we make the transition request what we have needs to be "professional".
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- present+ Makx
- 20:21:45 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- which one you are looking at
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- ?
- 20:22:09 [DaveBrowning]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1034
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- rrsagent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:22:37 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- q+
- 20:22:45 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: The issue above is about comments/definitions in the ttl files.
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- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 20:23:14 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: I am also worried about that issue.
- 20:23:47 [AndreaPerego]
- ... The suggestion includes the idea of splitting the DCAT ttl file in two different files.
- 20:24:51 [AndreaPerego]
- ... I can try and contact SimonCox about this.
- 20:25:47 [AndreaPerego]
- ... I'm for keeping just 1 file.
- 20:26:28 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: I would also be in favour of that.
- 20:26:33 [AndreaPerego]
- action: riccardoAlbertoni to contact SimonCox about the proposal of splitting the DCAT ttl file
- 20:26:34 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-364 - Contact simoncox about the proposal of splitting the dcat ttl file [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2019-09-11].
- 20:27:37 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Do we all think that this is main issue we have to address before the transition request?
- 20:28:12 [AndreaPerego]
- ... There were also some broken links, if I am not mistaken.
- 20:28:49 [AndreaPerego]
- ... I encourage everyone to look at the current PRs and see if there's anything to be done.
- 20:29:52 [AndreaPerego]
- ... From my side I'll try tomorrow to summarise the open issues.
- 20:30:33 [AndreaPerego]
- ... We need to make it clear what we postpone to a new version.
- 20:30:35 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- s/... I'm for keeping just 1 file./ merge the current PR in order to avoid to lose content such as translations and that get the consensum about skos:definition or whatever
- 20:31:04 [AndreaPerego]
- q+ to ask whether we have replied to / addressed all comments
- 20:31:14 [DaveBrowning]
- ack and
- 20:31:14 [Zakim]
- AndreaPerego, you wanted to ask whether we have replied to / addressed all comments
- 20:31:50 [AndreaPerego]
- AndreaPerego: I wonder whether we addressed all comments - as Lars's one.
- 20:32:08 [DaveBrowning]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Afeedback+label%3Adcat
- 20:32:21 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: All the comments we got are listed in the issues from the above link.
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- 20:33:16 [AndreaPerego]
- ... If they are open, they should be already addressed.
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- ... Some have been partially addressed.
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- ... There's also the one about the JSON example and we need to decide what to do.
- 20:35:15 [AndreaPerego]
- s/they should be already addressed/they are not addressed/
- 20:35:33 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: riccardoAlbertoni, could you summarise the status of the google doc?
- 20:36:04 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: There are some issues that can be marked for future work.
- 20:37:07 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/806
- 20:38:07 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:39:43 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: [lists issues to be finalised]
- 20:40:16 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: So, let's use the google doc to ensure we replied to all comments.
- 20:41:59 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Meanwhile, I'll prepare a draft of the transition request.
- 20:43:22 [AndreaPerego]
- ... Do you all agree with the proposal?
- 20:43:28 [Makx]
- +1
- 20:43:28 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 20:43:39 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 20:43:53 [PWinstanley]
- +1
- 20:44:41 [AndreaPerego]
- action: DaveBrowning to prepare a draft of the transition request and associated document, pointing to evidence that all the comments have been addressed
- 20:44:41 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-365 - Prepare a draft of the transition request and associated document, pointing to evidence that all the comments have been addressed [on David Browning - due 2019-09-11].
- 20:45:08 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Any suggestion / point anybody would like to make?
- 20:45:12 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +q
- 20:45:20 [DaveBrowning]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 20:45:41 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Just trying to understand the timeframe.
- 20:46:16 [AndreaPerego]
- PWinstanley: are we thinking that there will be a version for WG review by 10-12 Sept?
- 20:47:10 [AndreaPerego]
- riccardoAlbertoni: My question was also about some issues for alejandra and SimonCox, and I wonder they have time in this period to take care of them.
- 20:47:38 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Good point. Maybe we can have an additional week.
- 20:48:25 [AndreaPerego]
- PWinstanley: I think that the timetable from Philippe doesnt give enough time to remedy anything that the WG review might raise
- 20:49:42 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/04-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 20:50:34 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: riccardoAlbertoni maybe when you talk with SimonCox you can also point him to those open issues.
- 20:51:21 [AndreaPerego]
- ... BTW, I think what we have to is editorial only - right?
- 20:51:42 [AndreaPerego]
- s/we have to/we have to do/
- 20:52:00 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- i think everything was editorial except "the put at risk"
- 20:52:08 [AndreaPerego]
- ... If this is the case, it shouldn't be a problem to have the poll in time.
- 20:52:40 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:55:06 [Makx]
- +1 good plan
- 20:55:10 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- fine to me
- 20:55:12 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 20:55:41 [Makx]
- thanks and bye!
- 20:55:43 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- thanks all, bye !!
- 20:55:43 [PWinstanley]
- Bye all
- 20:55:47 [AndreaPerego]
- DaveBrowning: Thanks everyone. We can close the meeting.
- 20:56:14 [AndreaPerego]
- [meeting adjourned]
- 20:56:18 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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- 20:57:33 [AndreaPerego]
- s/merge the current PR/... I'm for merging the current PR/
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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