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19:43:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
19:43:30 <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2019
19:44:01 <DaveBrowning> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 4 September 2019 20:00 UTC
19:44:17 <DaveBrowning> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.09.04
19:44:43 <DaveBrowning> regrets+ Alejandra, Simon Cox
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19:45:02 <DaveBrowning> chair: DaveBrowning
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19:46:59 <DaveBrowning> present+
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20:01:55 <PWinstanley> present+
20:02:04 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
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20:04:48 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
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20:05:14 <AndreaPerego> present+
20:08:12 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: AndreaPerego
20:08:23 <AndreaPerego> topic: Approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:08:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:09:12 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:09:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> +0 ( i was not there )
20:10:24 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:11:03 <PWinstanley> +1
20:11:11 <AndreaPerego> resolved: Approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
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20:11:43 <AndreaPerego> topic: Plenary poll?
20:12:13 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:12:18 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: AndreaPerego, riccardoAlbertoni, you were at the plenary yesterday. Did this topic come up?
20:12:26 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:12:57 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: This was somehow implied, although not explicitly discussed.
20:13:44 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: The main point in last week plenary was about what we marked as features at risk, and why.
20:14:27 <AndreaPerego> PWinstanley: We already had a poll to go to CR.
20:14:43 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Yes, but in the last meeting the idea of an additional poll was raised.
20:14:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:14:54 <AndreaPerego> PWinstanley: I can take care of set it up.
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20:15:35 <AndreaPerego> topic: What we need to address before we are ready to go
20:15:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> q-
20:15:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Steps-to-Recommendation-2019
20:16:01 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: plh mentioned editing some metadata, but I don't remember precisely what this is about.
20:16:31 <AndreaPerego> ... The question is whether there are substantial steps we have to go through.
20:16:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+
20:16:38 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:17:02 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: I don't think we are going to have substantial changes, as new classes/properties.
20:17:25 <AndreaPerego> ... About issues in ttl files, are they to be considered as substantial?
20:17:48 <AndreaPerego> ... As only the spec is considered normative, this shouldn't be the case.
20:18:16 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Yes, the ttl files are not normative.
20:18:37 <AndreaPerego> ... So, we can work on them even after we go CR with the spec.
20:19:30 <AndreaPerego> ... About ttl files, the issue is rather the URLs of the new and original DCAT ttl files.
20:20:58 <AndreaPerego> ... Said all that, when we make the transition request what we have needs to be "professional".
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20:21:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> which one you are looking at
20:21:47 <riccardoAlbertoni> ?
20:22:09 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1034
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20:22:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+
20:22:45 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: The issue above is about comments/definitions in the ttl files.
20:23:01 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:23:14 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: I am also worried about that issue.
20:23:47 <AndreaPerego> ... The suggestion includes the idea of splitting the DCAT ttl file in two different files.
20:24:51 <AndreaPerego> ... I can try and contact SimonCox about this.
20:25:47 <AndreaPerego> ... I'm for keeping just 1 file.
20:26:28 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I would also be in favour of that.
20:26:33 <AndreaPerego> action: riccardoAlbertoni to contact SimonCox about the proposal of splitting the DCAT ttl file
20:26:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-364 - Contact simoncox about the proposal of splitting the dcat ttl file [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2019-09-11].
20:27:37 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Do we all think that this is main issue we have to address before the transition request?
20:28:12 <AndreaPerego> ... There were also some broken links, if I am not mistaken.
20:28:49 <AndreaPerego> ... I encourage everyone to look at the current PRs and see if there's anything to be done.
20:29:52 <AndreaPerego> ... From my side I'll try tomorrow to summarise the open issues.
20:30:33 <AndreaPerego> ... We need to make it clear what we postpone to a new version.
20:30:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/... I'm for keeping just 1 file./ merge the current PR in order to avoid to lose content such as translations and that get the consensum about skos:definition or whatever
20:31:04 <AndreaPerego> q+ to ask whether we have replied to / addressed all comments
20:31:14 <DaveBrowning> ack and
20:31:14 <Zakim> AndreaPerego, you wanted to ask whether we have replied to / addressed all comments
20:31:50 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I wonder whether we addressed all comments - as Lars's one.
20:32:08 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Afeedback+label%3Adcat
20:32:21 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: All the comments we got are listed in the issues from the above link.
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20:33:16 <AndreaPerego> ... If they are open, they should be already addressed.
20:33:28 <AndreaPerego> ... Some have been partially addressed.
20:33:56 <AndreaPerego> ... There's also the one about the JSON example and we need to decide what to do.
20:35:15 <AndreaPerego> s/they should be already addressed/they are not addressed/
20:35:33 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: riccardoAlbertoni, could you summarise the status of the google doc?
20:36:04 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: There are some issues that can be marked for future work.
20:37:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/806
20:38:07 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:39:43 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: [lists issues to be finalised]
20:40:16 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: So, let's use the google doc to ensure we replied to all comments.
20:41:59 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Meanwhile, I'll prepare a draft of the transition request.
20:43:22 <AndreaPerego> ... Do you all agree with the proposal?
20:43:28 <Makx> +1
20:43:28 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:43:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:43:53 <PWinstanley> +1
20:44:41 <AndreaPerego> action: DaveBrowning to prepare a draft of the transition request and associated document, pointing to evidence that all the comments have been addressed
20:44:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-365 - Prepare a draft of the transition request and associated document, pointing to evidence that all the comments have been addressed [on David Browning - due 2019-09-11].
20:45:08 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Any suggestion / point anybody would like to make?
20:45:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:45:20 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:45:41 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: Just trying to understand the timeframe.
20:46:16 <AndreaPerego> PWinstanley: are we thinking that there will be a version for WG review by 10-12 Sept?
20:47:10 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: My question was also about some issues for alejandra and SimonCox, and I wonder they have time in this period to take care of them.
20:47:38 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Good point. Maybe we can have an additional week.
20:48:25 <AndreaPerego> PWinstanley: I think that the timetable from Philippe doesnt give enough time to remedy anything that the WG review might raise
20:49:42 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:50:34 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: riccardoAlbertoni maybe when you talk with SimonCox you can also point him to those open issues.
20:51:21 <AndreaPerego> ... BTW, I think what we have to is editorial only - right?
20:51:42 <AndreaPerego> s/we have to/we have to do/
20:52:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> i think everything was editorial except "the put at risk"
20:52:08 <AndreaPerego> ... If this is the case, it shouldn't be a problem to have the poll in time.
20:52:40 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:55:06 <Makx> +1 good plan
20:55:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> fine to me
20:55:12 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:55:41 <Makx> thanks and bye!
20:55:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks all, bye !!
20:55:43 <PWinstanley> Bye all
20:55:47 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Thanks everyone. We can close the meeting.
20:56:14 <AndreaPerego> [meeting adjourned]
20:56:18 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:57:33 <AndreaPerego> s/merge the current PR/... I'm for merging the current PR/
20:57:35 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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