IRC log of dpvcg on 2019-09-03
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dpvcg-irc
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- 14:00:59 [axelpolleres]
- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2019Sep/0000.html
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- present+
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- present: elmar, harsh, bud
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- present: fajar
- 14:04:24 [axelpolleres]
- James, are you new in the group?
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- 14:04:42 [axelpolleres]
- if so, do you know how to join the call?
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2019Sep/0000.html
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- scribe: harsh
- 14:05:41 [axelpolleres]
- scribe: harsh
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- axelpolleres: last calls was scheduled for 6th Aug, but no one attended, so there were no minutes recorded
- 14:08:25 [harsh]
- Last meeting call was 18th June
- 14:08:46 [axelpolleres]
- PROPOSED: approve minutes from https://www.w3.org/2019/06/18-dpvcg-minutes
- 14:08:50 [harsh]
- +1
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- 14:09:01 [axelpolleres]
- +1
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- all other questions prior to publication have been resolved per email.
- 14:09:34 [axelpolleres]
- RESOLVED: approve minutes from https://www.w3.org/2019/06/18-dpvcg-minutes
- 14:10:14 [axelpolleres]
- topic: how to proceed to the next version of the spec?
- 14:10:38 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: progress so far - we advertised the spec via mailing lists, events, etc.
- 14:10:49 [axelpolleres]
- did we send the spec for feedback to the mydata last?
- 14:10:59 [harsh]
- elmar: (going to My Data)
- 14:11:09 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: elmar to advertise DPVCG at mydata and send it to the mydata global list.
- 14:11:09 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-123 - Advertise dpvcg at mydata and send it to the mydata global list. [on Elmar Kiesling - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:11:50 [harsh]
- elmar: My Data is 25-27 September in Helsinki
- 14:13:43 [harsh]
- elmar: (discussion sessions in My Data and which would be suitable for presenting DPV)
- 14:15:22 [axelpolleres]
- Elmar: involved in Mydata in two sessions. will contact Sille and others from Mydata.
- 14:15:23 [elmar]
- harsh has some slides on the vocabulary that he can share
- 14:15:30 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: can we reuse slides for ODBASE ?
- 14:16:12 [elmar]
- elmar to Look for an open space in the myData program to advertise the vocabulary
- 14:16:16 [axelpolleres]
- axel: maybe check whether they have an openspace agein?
- 14:16:25 [elmar]
- ACTION: elmar to Look for an open space in the myData program to advertise the vocabulary
- 14:16:25 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-124 - Look for an open space in the mydata program to advertise the vocabulary [on Elmar Kiesling - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:16:36 [harsh]
- fajar: we can also present something at SEMANTiCS
- 14:16:41 [axelpolleres]
- Harsh and Fajar will be going to SEMANTiCS...
- 14:16:49 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: who is going? (ans: Sabrina, Fajar, Harsh)
- 14:18:18 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: Harsh/Fajar to advertise at SEMANTiCS.
- 14:18:18 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Harsh/Fajar'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>.
- 14:18:41 [elmar]
- ACTION: fajar to advertise at SEMANTiCS.
- 14:18:41 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-125 - Advertise at semantics. [on Fajar Ekaputra - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:19:21 [axelpolleres]
- any other channels?
- 14:19:42 [harsh]
- fajar: semantic web mailing list? (axel already announced it, not much response)
- 14:19:54 [axelpolleres]
- Axel snet an [ANN] mail to w3c sw-list
- 14:20:10 [axelpolleres]
- another mail would only make sense on the next version.
- 14:20:25 [axelpolleres]
- Bert, are you there?
- 14:20:27 [elmar]
- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/
- 14:21:06 [harsh]
- elmar: update details on homepage
- 14:21:10 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: Axel ask bert to update the CGWebpage to advertise the drafts more prominently.
- 14:21:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-126 - Ask bert to update the cgwebpage to advertise the drafts more prominently. [on Axel Polleres - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:21:51 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: should we get back to regular meeting calls on biweekly schedule?
- 14:22:11 [Bert]
- Hi axelpolleres. Yes, I'm here, but I need to finish some important work. :-( Sorry, should have sent some email.
- 14:22:22 [axelpolleres]
- PROPOSED: get back to usual biweekly telco schedule until end of the year, or until we're finished, what happens earlier.
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- +1
- 14:22:29 [axelpolleres]
- +1
- 14:22:34 [harsh]
- (everyeone agrees on call)
- 14:22:35 [Fajar]
- +1
- 14:22:38 [elmar]
- +1
- 14:22:44 [axelpolleres]
- RESOLVED: get back to usual biweekly telco schedule until end of the year, or until we're finished, what happens earlier.
- 14:23:04 [axelpolleres]
- --> this means we stick for now with Tue 16:00 central Europe time...
- 14:23:58 [axelpolleres]
- harsh: none of the feedback has been incorporated yet.
- 14:24:03 [axelpolleres]
- axel: what do we have?
- 14:24:18 [harsh]
- 1) Martin's reviews on the paper, which can be incorporated into the spec
- 14:24:28 [axelpolleres]
- - martin's review on the paper/spec
- 14:24:55 [harsh]
- 2) diff between paper and text in spec to see what has changed, and update accordingly
- 14:25:07 [axelpolleres]
- - paragraph additional text from the paper at ODBASE that might also help the spec
- 14:26:25 [harsh]
- We also had this feedback regarding correcting datatypes in spec - https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2019Jul/0029.html
- 14:26:55 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: Axel to ask simon steyskal are your comments still open on the spec
- 14:26:56 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-127 - Ask simon steyskal are your comments still open on the spec [on Axel Polleres - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:26:59 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: we also had some comments from Simon in July
- 14:27:48 [harsh]
- fajar: keep an online list to collect all inputs to see whether they have been addressed
- 14:27:55 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: fajar, will try to recollect all the inputs and (not-)addressed issues in the spec.
- 14:27:55 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'fajar,'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>.
- 14:28:10 [elmar]
- ACTION: fajar will try to recollect all the inputs and (not-)addressed issues in the spec.
- 14:28:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-128 - Will try to recollect all the inputs and (not-)addressed issues in the spec. [on Fajar Ekaputra - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:28:45 [axelpolleres]
- Axel: use the issues tracker on W3C.
- 14:28:46 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: for each set of open comments or feedback, we should create an issue and track progress using that (W3C tracker)
- 14:28:48 [elmar]
- Should still use the issue tracker, but the Google Sheet would provide an overview
- 14:30:52 [axelpolleres]
- fajar will prepare the open things in a way that we can discuss them and discuss it with Harsh at SEMANTiCS... if HArsh and Fajar can send around a list at semantics to send around, we havee another week to have replies coming in on the mailinglist.
- 14:31:52 [axelpolleres]
- optimistically, by 1 but next telco (i.e. in a month) we can vote for resolutions of all open issues.
- 14:32:31 [axelpolleres]
- unless new issues/comments we could then have them incorporated, start internal reviewing mid october
- 14:33:34 [axelpolleres]
- internal reviews by end october in, incorporated/voted to publish by mid Nov?
- 14:33:40 [harsh]
- +1
- 14:34:08 [Fajar]
- +1
- 14:34:11 [axelpolleres]
- goal publish before end November.
- 14:34:14 [elmar]
- +1
- 14:34:19 [Bud_]
- +1
- 14:35:02 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION: Axel to check in the next telcos, whethrer we're on track for that timplan.
- 14:35:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-129 - Check in the next telcos, whethrer we're on track for that timplan. [on Axel Polleres - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:36:06 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: for use-cases and examples, we could use an existing use-case from a project and document dpv application to that
- 14:36:34 [harsh]
- axelpolleres: anyone willing to document one of the SPECIAL use-cases using the DPV?
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- elmar: anyone still working with the project partners?
- 14:37:05 [harsh]
- bud: is this an use-case that covers everything or only one aspect e.g. legal base
- 14:37:48 [harsh]
- bud: I can work with Eva to have an use-case on a limited scenario
- 14:38:28 [axelpolleres]
- Action: bud to discuss with eva to start a use case document?
- 14:38:29 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-130 - Discuss with eva to start a use case document? [on Bud P. Bruegger - due 2019-09-10].
- 14:39:05 [axelpolleres]
- would particularly involve picking a use case.
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- topicc: action list
- 14:40:29 [axelpolleres]
- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open
- 14:40:45 [axelpolleres]
- CLOSE ACTION-116
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- Closed ACTION-116.
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- CLOSE ACTION-118
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- Closed ACTION-118.
- 14:40:52 [axelpolleres]
- CLOSE ACTION-119
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- Closed ACTION-119.
- 14:41:23 [Fajar]
- Link to the compiled issues: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fRtIy1Cmh6RpWrCB7Cs6XZn504pJqIMAeJ2BhoZsdvs/edit?usp=sharing
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- harsh: to talk to Mark about ACTION-87 and ACTION-114 regarding relevance, progress, or whether they should be closed
- 14:42:39 [axelpolleres]
- Axel: Ithink ACTION-114 and ACTION-87 were referring to Mark's reservation on relying to NACE alone in the spec. HE should be asked whether he wants to further address that before we close them.
- 14:43:25 [axelpolleres]
- close ACTION-81
- 14:43:25 [trackbot]
- Closed ACTION-81.
- 14:44:10 [harsh]
- ACTION-36 to leave open until close of ACTION-130 as it relates to use-case
- 14:44:19 [axelpolleres]
- leave open closing of ACTION-36 until closing of ACTION-130
- 14:44:29 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION-36: leave open closing of ACTION-36 until closing of ACTION-130
- 14:44:29 [trackbot]
- Notes added to ACTION-36 Add points 1.-6. from https://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-dpvcg/2018nov/0000.html to https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/special/proximus_use_case.
- 14:45:16 [harsh]
- ACTION-87: talk to Mark about regarding relevance, progress, or whether they should be closed
- 14:45:16 [trackbot]
- Notes added to ACTION-87 Make a proposal alternatively use gics instead of nace..
- 14:45:28 [harsh]
- ACTION-114: talk to Mark about regarding relevance, progress, or whether they should be closed
- 14:45:28 [trackbot]
- Notes added to ACTION-114 Make a concrete proposal along specification of data controller categories by sector in the spec..
- 14:45:35 [axelpolleres]
- ACTION-11: Axel will close it after having talked to Simon.
- 14:45:35 [trackbot]
- Notes added to ACTION-11 Reach out to industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian big data project (dma)..
- 14:46:00 [axelpolleres]
- topic: AOB
- 14:47:25 [harsh]
- nothing else (on call)
- 14:47:37 [axelpolleres]
- adjourned and talk in two weeks ... seems you couldn't hear me anymore, I can hear you
- 14:47:43 [axelpolleres]
- THanks!
- 14:47:56 [axelpolleres]
- rrsagent, make logs worls visible
- 14:48:08 [axelpolleres]
- rrsagent, make logs world visible
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- rrsagent, draft public minutes
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft public minutes', axelpolleres. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 14:48:40 [harsh]
- rrsagent, publish minutes
- 14:48:40 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dpvcg-minutes.html harsh
- 14:49:15 [axelpolleres]
- hehe, I always keep on forgetting the command ;-)
- 14:49:55 [harsh]
- I googled it ;)
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