<kaz_> scribenick: sebastian
McCool merged some inputs from A. Bird and Wendy
<kaz_> Wendy's comments
<kaz_> Alan's comments
<kaz_> Sebastian's comment
<inserted> scribenick: kaz_
Sebastian: would add eClass to the
external org section
... Markus Reigl from Siemens also would like to join the WoT call at some
point, e.g., next week
McCool: why don't we let people review it for one week, and discuss it next week?
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: let's review the IG Charter in general
Sebastian: ok
<inserted> scribenick: sebastian
Sebastian presented the PR https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846 about OPC UA text updates + introduce eCl@ss as new organization
Markus Reigl would be happy to introduce eCl@ss in this round. we should shedule this after the vecation time
McCool give some feedback about the PING meeting during IETF meeting
PING sees three concerns with WoT: 1) use cases 2) need control of the TDs 3) the ID term in TD
McCool sees less technical concerns more policy aspects
Oliver Pfaff from Siemens will support in the future about security / privacy topics
next topic TF reports
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Sebastian: TD
... talked about namespace issues
... discussion about missing explanation
... how the namespace structure should look like
... relation to the other documents, etc.
... Victor will take care of the issue
... the other issue was merging remaining PRs, etc.
... nothing much for the TD spec itself
... but discussed Binding document and ontology document
... Koster, anything?
Koster: missed last two calls due to
other assignment
... don't have any active topics
... should work on vocabulary but it's a long-term topic
McCool: do you want to give some update on SDF and One Data Model next week?
Koster: yes
McCool: (adds "SDF and One Data
Model" to the "Future Topics" section of the main call
agenda)
... will not be available for a while
Sebastian: maybe need to cancel the
upcoming TD calls in August
... will talk with Taki
McCool: Architecture?
<sebastian> architecture on July 25 was canceled
Kaz: we had some initial
discussion on Jul 25. the main topic was WG topics based on
Lagally's slides (which is based on Matthias' slides)
... next meeting will be decided based on the doodle poll
McCool: need Lagally for further
discussion
... also should move up priority topics
<sebastian> Oracle has introduced new topics that require a group consensus.
McCool: would like to think about
online PlugFest/TestFest
... good opportunity for collaborating with others
... also would suggest we consider to join IETF
Hackathons
... upcoming IETF106 in Singapore, Nov. 16-17
... note it's quite soon after TPAC
... if Mozilla can't make TPAC in Fukuoka, any possibility for
IETF106 Hackathon in Singapore in Nov?
Kathy: some chance
... including Singapore
... ending November 20
McCool: Hackathon will be the
beginning of the IETF week (=Nov. 16-17)
... maybe you can check if it would work
... and the next one is IETF107 in Vancouver, March 21-22,
2020
... possibly collocated with our f2f
... in Vancouver somewhere
Kathy: Mozilla has an office in Vancouver
Kaz: also wondering about online PlugFest prior to TPAC 2019 in Fukuoka
Kathy: sounds possible
McCool: we set up VPN for last online
PlugFest
... we can find an expert for the setting
... we need to set up the environment quickly for TPAC
... do you know somebody who is good at VPN?
Kathy: not really, but can try OAuth, etc.
McCool: can understand you have a
portal
... we can try connection on some allocated day
... some orchestration of WoT and Mozilla
Kathy: can act as access point for the future PlugFest
McCool: actual date for the online
PlugFest
... who/what to show up
... what would be the plan?
Kaz: good question
... we need to identify concrete schedule
McCool: based on the scenario discussion (on the PlugFest preparation page)
Kaz: we should start discussion on the concrete schedule including the online PlugFest shortly, e.g., next week
McCool: there is a table including
devices on the PlugFest preparation page above
... added Intel device as well
... Zigbee devices
... you can add Mozilla's devices
Kathy: ok
Kaz: note that Toumura-san has
just added a diagram to the PlugFest preparation page above
... he needs to update the diagram with Intel devices,
though
McCool: yes
... we can see Mozilla devices as well
... there are scenarios below the table
Kathy: that's great
McCool: there is a dedicated section
for Mozilla already
... what kind of orchestration would be possible?
... to show interoperability
Kathy: great
... Samsung/SmartThings work well
Kaz: please add information to
the PlugFest preparation page above
... and also please try to join the PlugFest call which occurs
after this call usually (no PlugFest call today, though)
McCool: unfortunately, the moderator, Michael Lagally, is not available today, but probably in two weeks, we'll resume the discussion
Sebastian: question on the next
meeting?
... should we plan for the upcoming f2f meetings
... in addition to the IETF Hatckathon option
McCool: IETF Hackathon would be
easier to handle
... Vancouver is technically in north America
Kaz: we need to think about plan for upcoming f2f meetings as well
McCool: think Singapore is also
doable
... Sebastian (and all), if you have other ideas for possible
options, please let us know
... possible f2f meeting before March?
Sebastian: don't know but usually we hold f2f meetings every 3-4 months
McCool: would see candidates for our future meetings
McCool: can glance possible plans for TPAC f2f
McCool: any specific topics for joint
discussion?
... also please put your availability/unavailability
Kaz: e.g., I'll be attending the MEIG meeting on Monday
McCool: we can use the topics as the basis of the agenda
(note on dev meetup)
Kaz: note that we (somebody) need
to become a dev meetup sponsor if we want to provide demo
during dev meetup on Monday
... it's a separate sponsorship from the general TPAC
sponsor
McCool: ok
... in any case, I myself will be there
McCool: we need to talk more about
the upcoming future f2f planning as well
... aob for today?
(none)
Kaz: we'll have the main call on Aug 8, and a PlugFest call right after that (probably a short meeting to check the progress quickly)
McCool: a bit tricky but should be ok
[adjourned]