IRC log of audio-description on 2019-06-10

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Meeting: Audio Description Community Group
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio-description/2019Jun/0000.html
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Log: https://www.w3.org/2019/06/10-audio-description-irc
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Chair: Nigel
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Present: Nigel_Megitt, Peter_Blatchford
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Topic: Agenda
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Nigel: There are two main issues to discuss.
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Peter: I'm prepared to comment on both of the open issues.
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Nigel: We also have to consider future meetings.
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.. AOB?
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group: [no other business]
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Topic: Open pull requests
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Nigel: Just to note I merged the open pull requests at the end of last week so what you see at
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-> https://w3c.github.io/adpt/ ADPT Specification
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.. incorporates all the previously open pull requests.
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group: [happy with those merged changes]
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Topic: Constrain to one leaf element being active for audio at any one time? #8
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-> https://github.com/w3c/adpt/issues/8 Github issue 8
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Nigel: Any thoughts about this constraint?
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Peter: I agree with Matt's comment - we don't see a user case today.
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Chris: What about extended descriptions?
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.. The concept of more description than is permitted within the allotted time.
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Nigel: The timestamps at the moment are based on media, so there would need to be some kind of directive that says
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.. "if the audio is too long for the time available, pause the media until the audio has finished"
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.. and that could be useful for TTS also where the duration is unknown.
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Chris: Yes, I was more thinking of possible future requirements.
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Nigel: Right, we did not include that as a requirement for this version.
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Peter: Agree with that.
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Chris: I agree with Matt's comment too, just trying to provide a tangible use case.
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Peter: That makes good sense on an on-demand application where pausing the video wouldn't be an issue.
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Nigel: We should open this issue and defer it to a future version.
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Chris: That's a great idea, we should do that.
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Nigel: It could be a player feature without a directive, e.g. for braille displays where the user acknowledges that they
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.. have finished reading before the media continues.
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Chris: This would be great for educational uses too. Just thinking my way through it.
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.. There are a lot of times in educational programming where there's not enough room for the description to breathe
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.. and children for example would benefit from more robust descriptions.
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.. I'll raise this as an issue.
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Nigel: Thank you.
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.. For the moment I'm seeing consensus to add the constraint for only one active leaf at a time.
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.. I'll go ahead and draft a pull request for that so we can review and merge it.
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.. Thank you!
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.. Any other comment on that issue?
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group: [no more comments]
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Topic: Do we need to support `#contentProfiles` or `#processorProfiles`? #10
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-> https://github.com/w3c/adpt/issues/10 Issue 10
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Nigel: This is about planning ahead.
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Chris: I'm happy to defer - it seems to make sense from a future compatibility viewpoint.
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Peter: Matt has raised an interesting example. I'm not a fan of automated translation or voicing but there is an obvious
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.. application there, which could be a good reference.
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.. I'm in agreement with Matt's comment - we should permit people to specify but not require them to do so.
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Nigel: Thank you, that's pretty clear, I'll draft a pull request to add those too.
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Topic: Future meetings
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Nigel: The main point of having a future meeting would be if there is any more discussion needed.
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.. I can issue a call for consensus by email, so if everyone is happy with that then we don't need another meeting.
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Chris: Works for me
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Peter: Me too - as soon as we're happy that this is the standard to use we can go ahead with implementation.
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Nigel: Okay, then I will prepare pull requests for the open issues, and assuming they get positive reviews and we
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.. merge them then I will send a CfC for taking it forward for Rec track advancement in TTWG.
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.. I don't think I'm aware of any IPR issues at the moment but I will need to check that with W3C Staff.
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.. The only other question I have is about the Authors section at the top - I think I should move that to the
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.. Acknowledgements section if that seems okay.
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Peter: Sounds good to me
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Chris: Yes
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Nigel: Great, I'll go ahead with that.
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Topic: Meeting close
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Nigel: Thanks for joining, we've completed our agenda so I'll adjourn now. [adjourns meeting]
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