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Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 15 May 2019
19:50:51 [DaveBrowning]
meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 15 May 2019 20:00 UTC
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.05.15
19:51:49 [DaveBrowning]
regrets: Alasdair Gray, Erik Mannens, Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson, Makx, PWinstanley
19:52:04 [DaveBrowning]
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19:57:41 [DaveBrowning]
chair: DaveBrowning
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20:05:40 [AndreaPerego]
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present+
20:05:58 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
present+
20:06:04 [DaveBrowning]
present+
20:07:39 [SimonCox]
present+
20:07:43 [AndreaPerego]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.05.15
20:07:50 [AndreaPerego]
scribenick: AndreaPerego
20:07:56 [AndreaPerego]
topic: approve agenda
20:08:02 [AndreaPerego]
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.05.15
20:09:02 [SimonCox]
+1
20:09:02 [AndreaPerego]
+1
20:09:05 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:09:09 [DaveBrowning]
+1
20:09:21 [AndreaPerego]
topic: approve minutes
20:09:22 [AndreaPerego]
https://www.w3.org/2019/05/08-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:09:45 [AndreaPerego]
+1
20:09:46 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:09:55 [DaveBrowning]
+1
20:09:58 [SimonCox]
+1
20:10:14 [AndreaPerego]
resolved: approve minutes
20:10:46 [AndreaPerego]
s/resolved: approve minutes/resolved: last meeting minutes approved/
20:10:55 [AndreaPerego]
topic: Last night meeting
20:11:19 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: There was some discussion on transition request, but I don't think there's anything to be discussed today.
20:11:56 [AndreaPerego]
... For transition, according to the guidelines there's some paperwork to be done.
20:13:02 [AndreaPerego]
... One of the req is to include their W3C ID in the config.js file.
20:13:27 [AndreaPerego]
s/their W3C ID/the editors' W3C ID/
20:13:47 [AndreaPerego]
... Better sooner than later.
20:14:06 [AndreaPerego]
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20:14:41 [DaveBrowning]
topic: progress on dcat cr : https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/14
20:15:57 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Looking at the PRs, there's the editorial one by AndreaPerego, there are other editorial ones, but minor.
20:16:20 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+q
20:16:30 [DaveBrowning]
ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:16:30 [AndreaPerego]
... There's the one about dcat.ttl...
20:16:55 [SimonCox]
q+
20:16:58 [AndreaPerego]
RiccardoAlbertoni: My understanding is that we are waiting for the vote before asking for translations - also to have the very final one.
20:18:24 [AndreaPerego]
SimonCox: Valid point. We cannot ask people to do twice the same work.
20:18:31 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+q
20:18:44 [AndreaPerego]
Makes perfect sense to me as well.
20:19:11 [AndreaPerego]
s/Makes perfect sense to me as well./AndreaPerego: Makes perfect sense to me as well./
20:19:32 [DaveBrowning]
ack SimonCox
20:19:37 [DaveBrowning]
ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:20:15 [AndreaPerego]
RiccardoAlbertoni: E.g., we have the Italian translation that needs to be revised. So, do you confirm that we can wait?
20:20:20 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Yes.
20:23:10 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Can we discuss https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/919 ?
20:24:32 [SimonCox]
q+
20:25:00 [DaveBrowning]
ack SimonCox
20:27:15 [AndreaPerego]
AndreaPerego: One of the points is about splitting the namespace table. Is this table just meant to give the prefix to URI mapping, or to give the list of specifications used in DCAT and those used in the example.
20:27:26 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
q+
20:27:29 [DaveBrowning]
q+
20:27:51 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
q-
20:28:16 [DaveBrowning]
ack DaveBrowning
20:28:24 [AndreaPerego]
SimonCox: I think we can go for the 2nd option. We have also a section about the use of other vocs in DCAT, but it is not normative.
20:28:41 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
q+
20:28:48 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: I would be in favour of that.
20:29:14 [AndreaPerego]
... It can be helpful for readers as well.
20:29:19 [DaveBrowning]
ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:29:51 [AndreaPerego]
RiccardoAlbertoni: I am not sure I understand what we mean with normative vocabulary. E.g., DQV is only used in the guidance: is this normative or not?
20:30:13 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: I think we should include only in the vocs in Section 6.
20:31:03 [AndreaPerego]
RiccardoAlbertoni: Yes, but also the ones we use for DCAT terms, are just used partially.
20:31:07 [AndreaPerego]
q+
20:31:14 [DaveBrowning]
ack AndreaPerego
20:31:25 [SimonCox]
I would suggest only including vocabularies mentioned in Chapter 6 as normative
20:32:38 [DaveBrowning]
q?
20:35:26 [AndreaPerego]
AndreaPerego: I don't think there's a requirement to re-use a whole voc to be included as a normative ref.
20:37:11 [AndreaPerego]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dxwg/andrea-perego-dcat-ed-rev/dcat/index.html
20:37:12 [SimonCox]
+1
20:38:28 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+1
20:39:31 [DaveBrowning]
+1
20:40:22 [AndreaPerego]
https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fdxwg%2Fdcat%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2Fw3c%2Fdxwg%2Fandrea-perego-dcat-ed-rev%2Fdcat%2Findex.html#Class:Catalog
20:42:58 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
It
20:43:21 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
s/It//
20:44:10 [AndreaPerego]
AndreaPerego: The other point is about the change not for class catalog, which should be reviewed. Also, I'm unsure which are the relevant issues.
20:45:34 [AndreaPerego]
SimonCox: I am not sure we have specific issues for them. It could be an outcome of discussion from a f2f
20:46:10 [AndreaPerego]
AndreaPerego: I will check the minutes then.
20:46:30 [AndreaPerego]
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20:46:38 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
No lets merge ...
20:47:19 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
I agree with andrea this pr are about editorial and I do not see much problems in merging
20:47:41 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Should we wait to merge until the PR poll is closed?
20:47:57 [AndreaPerego]
AndreaPerego: These are just editorial changes, so we shouldn't be subject to the vote.
20:48:20 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
s/this pr/these PRs
20:50:56 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
i agree ... let merge as soon as possible
20:50:59 [RiccardoAlbertoni]
+q
20:51:06 [DaveBrowning]
ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:51:22 [SimonCox]
Yes - editorial changes, but the section ordering are significant changes to the loook of the document.
20:51:29 [SimonCox]
so need to merge soon soon
20:52:39 [DaveBrowning]
regrets+ Alejandra
20:54:05 [AndreaPerego]
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20:54:17 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Should we discuss anything else?
20:54:27 [AndreaPerego]
SimonCox: Can the disgrams be pushed?
20:54:30 [AndreaPerego]
DaveBrowning: Yep.
20:54:39 [AndreaPerego]
s/disgrams/diagrams/
20:56:47 [SimonCox]
bye
20:56:50 [DaveBrowning]
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20:58:04 [AndreaPerego]
[meeting adjourned]
20:58:10 [AndreaPerego]
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