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11:01:10 <xfq> Meeting: Clreq Editors' Call
11:01:40 <xfq> present+ Eric, Huijing, Fuqiao
11:01:50 <xfq> present+ Yijun
11:01:54 <xfq> chair: xfq
11:01:57 <xfq> scribenick: xfq
11:03:16 <xfq> Topic: zh & en versions
11:04:33 <xfq> xfq: jlreq added the ability to switch language by URL parameter
11:04:36 <xfq> ... and is discussing about making English the default
11:04:44 <xfq> ... because showing both English and Japanese is not a common use case
11:04:48 <xfq> ... should we apply this to clreq too?
11:07:44 <xfq> Eric: the English version of jlreq is the authoritative version
11:08:07 <xfq> ... and it's written mostly for English readers
11:09:28 <xfq> ... but a lot of readers of clreq are Chinese readers
11:09:29 <xfq> Bobby: agreed
11:09:29 <xfq> ... Japan has a JIS standard, but we don't have the eq
11:10:32 <xfq> ... but displaying multiple languages simultaneously does not look good either
11:11:19 <xfq> huijing: I think the current status is good enough
11:11:36 <xfq> Eric: ok
11:11:47 <xfq> ... so we won't change the default language for now
11:12:35 <xfq> Topic: Go through the issue and pull request list
11:12:45 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/pull/211
11:12:47 <xidorn> present+
11:13:10 <xfq> present+ Bobby
11:13:26 <xfq> Eric: I think we can merge this
11:13:38 <xfq> All: agreed
11:13:47 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/pull/208
11:14:35 <xfq> xfq: Richard commented in the PR
11:14:46 <xfq> ... some editorial issues
11:16:20 <xfq> Eric: I'll comment on the PR
11:17:00 <xfq> huijing: I'll also fix the editorial issues
11:19:16 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/210
11:19:26 <xfq> Eric: the text is a bit weird
11:20:15 <xfq> ... maybe a translation issue (from jlreq)?
11:21:26 <xfq> ... I propose we change from 需要 to 可以
11:21:36 <xfq> ... and remove "中文书籍无论直、横排大多不分栏"
11:23:54 <xfq> ... should we talk about books and magazines separately?
11:24:18 <xfq> Yijun: I agree with Eric
11:24:55 <xfq> ... this section is about the differences between horizontal and vertical writing modes
11:25:59 <xfq> xfq: any objection to Eric's proposal?
11:26:08 <xfq> [no objection]
11:26:14 <xfq> xfq: I'll submit a PR
11:26:32 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/209
11:27:04 <xfq> Eric: this is a question, and I answered it
11:27:25 <xfq> ... can we close this issue?
11:27:54 <xfq> [silence]
11:28:01 <xfq> Eric: I'll close it
11:30:13 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/207
11:30:31 <xfq> huijing: should we simplify the text a bit?
11:31:23 <xfq> Eric: in order to reduce ambiguity, I think it's OK sacrifice some simplicity
11:35:14 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/125
11:36:09 <xfq> huijing: I remember Yijun shared some examples about this before
11:37:25 <xfq> Yijun: this is not common
11:37:52 <xfq> ... one or two example may not be super useful, since people might just lay it out casually
11:38:00 <xfq> Eric: how is the spacing computed?
11:39:40 <xfq> xidorn: @@1
11:40:46 <xfq> ... this issue is caused by using the Japanese layout algorithm to lay out Latin characters
11:41:35 <xfq> ... space-around is the default value, and it's designed for Japanese
11:42:39 <xfq> Bobby: how do we lay it out case in InDesign?
11:42:59 <xfq> Eric: it's a style issue
11:43:07 <xfq> ... there are several ways to do this
11:45:07 <xfq> ... the default way to do this in Chinese should be set solid and centered
11:45:21 <xfq> ... as in Richard's first illustration
11:46:45 <xfq> xfq: should we mention this in the document?
11:47:33 <xfq> ... add some text in https://w3c.github.io/clreq/#interlinear_annotations ?
11:53:06 <xfq> xidorn: we can add some text in https://w3c.github.io/clreq/#usage_of_interlinear_annotations
11:53:55 <xfq> Eric: agreed
11:54:24 <xfq> ... more specifically, we can add some text in § 3.3.1.2 Indicating Meaning or Other Additional Information
11:59:19 <xfq> ... do we really need to mention this in the document?
12:01:29 <xfq> ... can I comment in the issue and close it?
12:02:27 <xfq> Topic: AOB
12:02:44 <xfq> Bobby: Anyone going to TPAC?
12:02:52 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/Overview.html
12:04:07 <xfq> Eric: 16 September is Respect for the Aged Day
12:09:55 <xfq> ... I can't be there for the whole week, but one day might be possible
12:12:47 <xfq> Bobby: we can look into the possibility of discussing the future of clreq and jlreq (possibly also klreq) for one day
12:15:20 <xfq> Topic: Next telecon time
12:16:46 <xfq> June 5, Wed, 19:00-20:00 (UTC+8)
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12:25:35 <xfq> s/have the eq/have the equivalent/
12:30:16 <xfq> s/can I comment in the issue and close it?/comment in the issue and close it might be enough/
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