[Probable regrets from Steven]
Steven: Cancelled for a funeral.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0017
Steven: Part 4 of my XForms series at xml.com
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0018
Steven: Added some tests for
insert
... Action items completed:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0086
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0087
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0088
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0089
<scribe> [DONE]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0090
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0093
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0069
[I will close if no comments]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0069
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0075
[Please review]
https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_itemset_Element
Steven: Now included in the spec. Comments are welcome
Controls > Rendering)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0027
Steven: So does this cover out-of-range? If so, then I want to make that explicit
Erik: Seems reasonable.
... Let me have look
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to update out-of-range for section on all controls
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2248 - Update out-of-range for section on all controls [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0009
Steven: Please check the summary that it satisfies
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0015
Steven: It's unexpected; I think it's unintended; I doubt anyone depends on it; I think it's an error; it might be worth fixing.
Erik: I'd like longer to think
about it.
... the action mixes a couple of things.
... the context would be more explicit if we had into="..."
Steven: It is this line: "the target location is before the first child of the insert
location node, or the child list of the insert location node if it is
empty;
"
Erik: This would change things
<ebruchez> <list><foo/></list>
Steven: Yes, but I'm not sure anyone uses it
<ebruchez> <insert context=“list” origin=“element(‘bar’)”/>
<ebruchez> <list><bar/><foo/></list>
<ebruchez> <insert context=“list” ref=“foo” origin=“element(‘bar’)”/>
<ebruchez> <list><foo/><bar/></list>
Steven: @at and @position are ignored when the target sequence is empty
Erik: I'm worried about backwards
compatibility
... we could add @into
Steven: Or we could use @at and @position in the empty case too.
<ebruchez> https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-update-30/#id-insert
Erik: XQuery update has a different technique
Steven: I'll take a look
... let's think on it before the next call
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0023
https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_insert_Element
Steven: So is this the same as the Element Evaluation Context?
Erik: I think so.
Alain: I think so too.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven update insert/@at context
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2249 - Update insert/@at context [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0007
Steven: So should we be explicit about items being copied, not just nodes?
Erik: Definitely
... what happens with translating more than one item into
text?
... Separate with whitespace (ala XSLT)
... in the end you need nodes.
... items are not nodes.
... We should say something about it.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to talk about copying items in insert
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2250 - Talk about copying items in insert [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0001
Steven: Let's just use 'copy' instead of 'clone'.
Erik: Yeah.
... It's not rocket science, not ambiguous
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to replace 'clone' with 'copy'.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2251 - Replace 'clone' with 'copy'. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].
[None]
[ADJOURN]
No call next week.
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