<kaz> Chair: kaz
<kaz> scribenick: kaz
<scribe> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
Kaz: koster, update on one data model?
Koster: can do that
Sebastian: want to start discussion
about demo on the openday
... we'll organize a place for demo
... would like to know who is bringing your demos
... to see the requirement
... will set up a separate wiki page to collect
information
... short explanation about your demo, etc.
... cross-domain scenario?
... our spec draft works well
... we should be able to set up a cross-domain demo
... maybe GitHub readme or W3C wiki
Lagally: we used to have a plugfest
call after the main call
... we might want to think about integration scenario
... need enough time/preparation
... we can replicate what we've been doing for our
plugfest
... requirements for services, structure of TDs
... let's reuse the plugfest/testfest setting
Sebastian: make sense
... we have 4 weeks for preparation
Lagally: we should start soon
... e.g., next week
Sebastian: a bit worried to have too many calls
Kaz: we can start to collect
interested people
... and then copy plugfest resources from the plugfest/testfest
directories
Lagally: good point
... we need time for dry-run as well
Sebastian: please note that setting can be done on Friday, June 1st
Kaz: suggest you put all the
logistics information on the readme page
... we can have some more discussion separately, e.g., after
this call during the testfest slot, if people are ok
Lagally: we can do so
... one more question
... CfP is online
... EasyChair is available
... so would encourage people to submit something
... good to know who is planning to submit a
paper/statement
Kaz: is everybody interested?
Ege: yes
Sebastian: some of German companies are planning including Siemens
Lagally: Oracle as well
Kunihiko: would like to prepare some presentation but maybe a bit difficult with the current deadline
Kaz: maybe you can submit an updated paper later
Koster: will be presenting my work
Taki: will work with Matsukura-san for that
Tomoaki: will submit a paper too
Toru: will prepare something
Zoltan: haven't discuss it yet, but would like to
Lagally: good news :)
<scribe> scribenick: sebastian
Kaz: we need clearification about
TD serializiation
... we should explain the simple and full form of TD
... ivan suggested to use json-ld + profile mediatype
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Sebastian: comment on media type
... one TD format and TD own media type
... should have one only serialization
... introduction section misses clear description, so would
like to work on the clarification
Kaz: as I mentioned before, there is a specific guideline to register mediatypes for W3C specs
<kaz> media type registration procedure
Kaz: regarding the media type for TD, will talk with Ralph from the W3C Team as well
... regarding wide reviews for TD in general, will talk with the team
contacts for TAG, JSON-LD, i18n and a12y, and ask them for
reviews
... regarding architecture, we don't need review by JSON-LD. right?
Lagally: right
Sebastian: discussion on how to deal
with "@context"
... we should think about some description about it rather than
using "simple TD" vs "full TD"
... some of the developers don't want to use semantic
information like "@context"
... missing that kind of semantic information should be
acceptable
... would like to talk about that point during the TD call on
Friday, April 5
Lagally: btw, it might make sense if we ask JSON-LD people to review the architecture spec as well
Kaz: we can try to ask them if we want :)
Lagally: more reviews of the specifications would be helpful
Kaz: I can mention the Architecture draft as well when I ask the JSON-LD WG for review
Lagally: there is a link to the architecture spec from TD. right?
Sebastian: yes
Lagally: and link from the TD explainer too?
Kaz: confirms that TD explainer
has a link to the Architecture
Koster: planning to update the binding templates document
Kaz: good to publish an updated Note :)
<inserted> scribenick: sebastian
Koster: oneDM is a broad
liaison between multiple SDOs, corporations, and invited
experts
... driving toward common IoT data model that all can use
... supports patterns
... abstract definitions with seperate protocol binding
... separate data types
... compatible with TD meta model with properties, actions, and
events
... decide on JSON representation
... support multiple namespaces
... + ODM namespaces for agreed common definitions
... Process: 1. create presentation, 2. Prototypes, 3. ?
... status: working on meta-model + representation format
... next f2f in May
... there are weekly meetings (Wed 7am PDT)
... Michael_K has a proposal for OneDM based on TD
... shows many samples
Lagally: can you provide the slide?
Koster: is on github
Mihcael_L: there is an example of extensions
Kaz: the oneDM people want to use JSON based format. How they want to use the namespaces?
Koster: using scoping for
it
... google call it pathing
... linking is very important
<kaz> scribenick: kaz
Sebastian: so many feature points
mentioned here
... similar to the TD and binding templates
... are they aware of our WoT work?
... would like to have discussion with them
Koster: mainly OCF and Zigbee
guys
... I mentioned schema.org, etc.
... Matthias also mentioned WoT work
... definition language looks more like schema
... if we could put TD between the high-level definition and
the low-level definition, would be great
Kaz: think it would make sense to invite them to our main call and the workshop in June
Sebastian: good point
Lagally: in this discussion, any
functional gap we should consider?
... require extensions or don't work with our mechanism?
Koster: if they can agree to use
JSON-LD, that would be good
... template thing might make sense
... would think about the template
... might become an object
(none)
Sebastian: not available today
Kaz: let's have some more discussion after the TD call on Friday, April 5
Lagally: ok
... Sebastian, please put the information on demo logistics together
Kaz: Sebastian, you can copy the
items/sections from the previous plugfest/testfest pages
... and we can fill the fields based on the discussions with
the group participants
Sebastian: let's discuss the details on Friday
Toru: when will the PC call start?
Kaz: April 15th
... because there will be the AC meeting next week
... Sebastian will send a message about that to the PC list
Sebastian: McCool will make a lightning
talk at the AC meeting
... and he is expected to mention the workshop as well
Kaz: will check with him
Lagally: can everybody bring your demo to the workshop, e.g., the ones you showed in Lyon during TPAC?
Kaz: would be a good starting
point
... let's check that point as well on Friday
... everybody, please check within your company to see if your
demos will be available in June in Munich
... any other questions?
(none)
[adjourned]