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19:46:14 <PWinstanley> chair: PWinstanley
19:46:50 <PWinstanley> regrets+ Makx, Andrea, Antoine, Alejandra, Annette, Jaroslav
19:47:10 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
19:59:05 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.04.02
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20:02:22 <ncar> present+
20:02:22 <PWinstanley> present+
20:02:42 <TomB> present+
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20:07:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:11:27 <PWinstanley> regrets+ kcoyle
20:13:53 <TomB> scribe: TomB
20:14:05 <TomB> scribeNick: TomB
20:14:25 <TomB> Peter: people happy with agenda? minutes of last meeting?
20:14:35 <PWinstanley> proposed: accept minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/03/26-dxwg-minutes
20:14:50 <DavidBrowning> +1
20:14:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> +0 ( i was not there)
20:14:57 <PWinstanley> +1
20:15:41 <ncar> +1
20:15:58 <PWinstanley> resolved: accept minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/03/26-dxwg-minutes
20:16:00 <TomB> RESOLVED: Accept minutes
20:16:45 <TomB> TOPIC: Time of telecons - Australia will change next weekend
20:17:07 <TomB> TOPIC: Whether to have F2F in Fukuoka - colleagues please respond to poll.
20:18:04 <TomB> TOPIC: Now including in agenda two tables: 1) PRs, 2) Issues "marked for closing"
20:18:35 <TomB> ...will help us keep overview even if we are not attending DCAT meetings.
20:18:46 <PWinstanley> q?
20:18:47 <riccardoAlbertoni> yes
20:18:49 <TomB> ...they will be closed.
20:19:01 <TomB> TOPIC: Open action items
20:19:10 <TomB> ...almost all of which are for subgroups
20:19:23 <TomB> ...proposing meeting times (done)
20:19:34 <TomB> ...proposal for referencing PRs
20:19:44 <TomB> ...Closing #319 and #320
20:20:14 <TomB> ...Dave, can we chip away at issues over next few days? #173, 174
20:20:33 <TomB> Dave: Will put on agenda for DCAT subgroup meeting.  We have been busy.
20:21:02 <TomB> Pete: Github ?? needs to be done.  Talk with Philippe?
20:21:21 <TomB> ...Nick, things w.r.t. test suite - goes back six months
20:21:33 <TomB> Nick: We did mention at least conneg subgroup meeting.
20:21:59 <TomB> Peter: Our attn is split btw what we have on this system (zakim and ACTIONs) and Github -
20:22:07 <TomB> ...we need to pay attn and tidy up.
20:22:18 <TomB> Nick: Lars is very good at checking ACTION items.
20:22:39 <TomB> Peter: If they are still live, they stay there.  But if timed out or closed, must get rid.
20:22:48 <TomB> ...Need to push into subgroup meetings
20:22:59 <TomB> ...We have spreadsheet of comments coming in from public list.
20:23:34 <TomB> ...w.r.t. Profiles Vocab, if we get things coming in w.r.t. publn today, need to log in spreadsheet.
20:23:41 <TomB> Nick: We expect to get comments on second.
20:23:55 <TomB> Peter: But we do not expect to do anything about that until may.
20:24:21 <TomB> ...checking team availability over next four weeks.
20:24:48 <TomB> Dave: Several people are on holiday.
20:25:12 <TomB> ...however, fast approaching point where we will have something close to Proposed Recommendation.
20:25:24 <TomB> ...before tomorrow, may not have complete list.
20:25:53 <TomB> ...At that point, will be important to get eyeballs on doc before PR - target: before Easter.
20:26:04 <TomB> ...so a few weeks to close off remaining issues.
20:26:27 <TomB> ...Sunday, 21st - potential PR by then
20:26:49 <TomB> ...if we do that, would be important to have widest possible WG review before offering to wider audience
20:27:24 <TomB> ...agrees no major defects and happy to move on in process
20:27:55 <TomB> ...that would give us a week at end of month - for debugging spec - would give us a PR towards end of month
20:28:18 <TomB> ...obviously, if significant issues arise... but alot of work has been done, so reasonably comfortable
20:28:36 <TomB> Peter: The Google Doc covers things that are absolutely mandatory...?
20:28:50 <TomB> Dave: Except some things that haven't been done
20:29:07 <TomB> ...Need to update w.r.t. critical things not yet done - especially versioning
20:29:30 <TomB> ...but not as complete as we had intended when we discussed last year
20:29:34 <PWinstanley> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Du2hZzIxejX7MT6MlmZOIdMKFonrLRUUAn1v5XJwt4/edit#gid=0
20:29:41 <TomB> Peter: Jaro was doing alot on versioning side
20:29:52 <TomB> Dave: We have two-thirds complete.
20:30:07 <TomB> Peter: It was becoming extremely complicated.
20:30:24 <TomB> Dave: Versioning thing is main casualty of timeboxing.
20:30:34 <TomB> ...Triage.
20:31:01 <TomB> Peter: One of the most obvious things: for DCAT3 work - we need right form of words when offering to people for comment
20:31:17 <TomB> ...So they do not immediately home in on absence of versioning.
20:31:26 <TomB> ...Issue 42?
20:31:34 <TomB> Dave: Not a clue.
20:32:14 <TomB> Peter: Questions?
20:32:18 <PWinstanley> q?
20:32:30 <TomB> TOPIC: Conneg
20:32:41 <TomB> Peter: Nick, can we create a cut-off?
20:33:06 <TomB> Nick: We have been ready for 2nd PWD.  Hoping to have in this meeting to proceed with 2nd PWD release.
20:33:20 <TomB> Peter: Can take a vote, then send out poll.
20:33:27 <TomB> Nick: Need to link-check.
20:34:02 <TomB> Peter: If you and Lars can email me.  We put poll out requesting.  Will be good enough for W3C.
20:34:16 <TomB> Nick: Hopeflly 2nd PWD next week.
20:34:23 <TomB> s/flly/fully/
20:34:44 <TomB> Nick: Lot of issues that will be coming thru on 3rd PWD.
20:34:59 <TomB> Peter: If everyone content, want to move on to other issues...
20:35:09 <TomB> ...I started, and Karen found others
20:35:19 <TomB> ...some high-volume issues.
20:35:41 <TomB> ...Are these going anywhere?  Or do we park?  Not resolvable in near term?
20:35:51 <TomB> ...Some in older issues - discussed and not closed.
20:36:18 <TomB> ...I am looking for guidance on what we can do with these
20:36:40 <TomB> ...Not necessarily resolve, but park them to keep discussion available?
20:36:53 <TomB> ...Is there anything people want to say about these?
20:37:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:37:10 <DavidBrowning> q+
20:37:15 <PWinstanley> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:37:17 <TomB> ...Or revive on email or upcoming meetings?
20:37:53 <TomB> Riccardo: Noting that #317 - will be moved into backlog of future issues to be considered for next round.
20:38:07 <TomB> Peter: Fine - "irrelevant for the list".  Dave?
20:38:25 <PWinstanley> ack DavidBrowning
20:38:41 <TomB> Dave: +1 Riccardo.  Not sure it makes sense to try to cull these.
20:39:02 <TomB> ...Some of these will be addressed by work we are doing.
20:39:11 <TomB> ...Either moved into future work or be addressed.
20:39:17 <TomB> ...A few we will not touch.
20:39:32 <TomB> ...Basically: Might be better to leave them to be discussed in time.
20:39:56 <TomB> Peter: Karen and I did this because we saw huge number of issues going way back and wondered about their status.
20:40:08 <TomB> ...DCAT 70 pending + 6-7 active.
20:40:16 <TomB> Dave: Some of these will move into future work.
20:40:39 <TomB> ...Text of document implies we did TTL file - but unsure.
20:41:03 <TomB> Peter: Karen and I tabled in order to dredge them up and bring back to radar.
20:41:24 <TomB> ...Do you want us to take these off the agenda - or leave them there to be picked off?
20:41:37 <TomB> Dave: Before next meeting, will try to have a go.
20:41:56 <TomB> Peter: X will not be around for April for UCR work.
20:42:06 <DavidBrowning> s/X/Jaro/
20:42:14 <TomB> ...brings us to an early end of meeting.
20:42:22 <PWinstanley> q?
20:42:41 <TomB> ...Thanks Tom for scribing.
20:43:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> rrsagent, make log public
20:43:07 <TomB> ...Same time next week.
20:43:12 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
20:43:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/04/02-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
20:43:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks
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