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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

21 Mar 2019

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, Atsushi, JcK, Katy, Bert, David
Regrets
Jeff, Stone
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


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Agenda and Minutes

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Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-730?

<trackbot> action-730 -- Richard Ishida to Write an article about rtl usage for non-semitic text particularly historic scripts -- due 2018-06-28 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/730

<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind folks to review non-semitic text rtl document

<trackbot> Created ACTION-788 - Remind folks to review non-semitic text rtl document [on Addison Phillips - due 2019-03-28].

action-783?

<trackbot> action-783 -- Richard Ishida to Investigate implications of moving its recs to github -- due 2019-03-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/783

close action-783

<trackbot> Closed action-783.

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2019/03/07/new-resource-short-i18n-review-checklist/

action-784?

<trackbot> action-784 -- Richard Ishida to Announce short checklist on home page and via tweet, addison to send to chairs@ -- due 2019-03-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/784

action-785?

<trackbot> action-785 -- Addison Phillips to Remind wg to review webaudio -- due 2019-03-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/785

close action-785

<trackbot> Closed action-785.

action-786?

<trackbot> action-786 -- Addison Phillips to Remind wg members to review whatwg issue 2945 and related tag discussion for next tc -- due 2019-03-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/786

close action-786

<trackbot> Closed action-786.

Info Share

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/afrlreq

richard: have two new repos
... afrlreq for African languages
... no dedicated chairs/editors
... framework, try to get experts subscribed

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/

richard: also have eurlreq
... have 4 gap analysis documents already
... added georgian this week
... greek (modern)

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: interesting questions on indic list; no responses yet
... particularly related to segmentation

addison: conjunct vs. non-conjunct

richard: graphemes; whether browsers can do things not related to text stream
... interesting questions

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

richard: question from WICG (Web Incubation IG)
... proposing new attributes for inline width and block height, but then also for writing-mode because of scripts that can also be vertical - objective to start laying out pages before the CSS is parsed - i argued against it because reintroduces presentation markup
... height/width disappearing from css

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-issues/issues/6

TPAC WBS

richard: TPAC organizers ask tell if group to meet

addison: any "end of week" preference?

<David> I intend to be at TPAC. Start of week worked well at Lyon

Decision on ITS docs

addison: decision to own for maintenance purposes

richard: taking ITS reqs won't change way we're chartered
... and plh said, unless we make substantive changes wouldn't add IP commitment
... can we change to ask for github instead of mailing lists

addison: any objections to owning these without intention to work on the but fielding questions/requests about them

richrd: ITS IG goes under I18N IG (www-international@)
... separate list under auspices of IG

addison: please vote in IRC for/against taking ownership of ITS reqs

+1

<David> +1

<JcK> +1

<Bert> 0

<r12a> +1

<Katy> +1

<atsushi> +1

jeff stone abstained via email

<Najib> +1

addison: so resolved

Web Developer needs survey by MDN

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Mar/0016.html

i18n resolutions

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Mar/0014.html

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/96

what a whitespace character is

richard: changes to css to define whitespace characters
... no indication of implementation
... went quiet

<Katy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2015Aug/att-0020/first-letter-form-feed.html

richard: raise as github issue asking "what happened here?"

<scribe> ACTION: richard: revive issue 96 with CSS as a github issue

<trackbot> Created ACTION-789 - Revive issue 96 with css as a github issue [on Richard Ishida - due 2019-03-28].

<Katy> Should navigator.language and and/or HTTP Accept-Language include locale?

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/156

<Katy> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/156

david: introducing more metadata into navigator locale
... can put in full locales in A-L
... stuff like currency formats

close

<Katy> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/238

richard: this is for encoding
... safari was doing some weird stuff
... main issue is that safari is out
... some aspects of tests are not correct
... meantime tests taken over by whatwg
... tests are complex
... haven't reviewed
... if xfq were here and were interested into looking into it that would be nice
... need a new tag for 'dormant'?

make dormant

AOB?

jck: future regrets

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind folks to review non-semitic text rtl document
[NEW] ACTION: richard: revive issue 96 with CSS as a github issue
 

Summary of Resolutions

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Present: addison Atsushi JcK Katy Bert David
Regrets: Jeff Stone
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019Mar/0011.html
Found Date: 21 Mar 2019
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