<scribe> scribe: janina
<jasonjgw> Everyone agrees that Janina's changes are appropriate and well done.
<jasonjgw> Scott notes that the supposed alternative raised in the comment isn't a genuine CAPTCHA alternative.
<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we need to clarify why it's out of scope for purpsoes of the Note.
<scott_h> sorry everyone - webex just kicked me out, will try to come back in
<jasonjgw> Janina and Judy recapitulate the comment response process - replying to each comment and explaining how it has been addressed, giving the author of the comment the opportunity to participate in the dialogue regarding the resolution.
<jasonjgw> Janina will take the responses to comments to the APA Working Group.
<jasonjgw> Janina: review is open until the 24th; there will not be a CfC until the review period is over.
<jasonjgw> Janina: the WCAG-related changes require a CfC that can occur soon.
<scott_h> still having trouble getting on - won't ccept WebEx password. Ironically just proivded traditional CAPTCHA after too many attempts!
<jasonjgw> Janina regards these changes as important due to the cross-references to WCAG.
<jasonjgw> The last remaining issue on the alleged CAPTCHA alternative needs a little more analysis.
<jasonjgw> Janina will contact Google regarding ReCAPTCHA.
<jasonjgw> Janina and Judy will determine the channel of communication to engage Google on this issue.
jgw: Conversation is building in W3C on both areas, now being called XVR
mgw: A cg and a wg ... immersive web?
jgw: Would be useful we identify
considerations likely to emerge
... e.g. issue identifications
<jasonjgw> Janina: we should also identify opportunities for XR to solve accessibility problems.
janina: Also identify opportunity, e.g. possible solution for forced line breaks with large print
sh: When talking 360 video, we also mean audio, correct?
jgw: Good question, not sure how scope is defined
sh: Happy to take on literature review, but need to know the defined scope
<jasonjgw> Janina: suggests looking at any documents taht the W3C is working on in this area - including charters.
<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we should also seek to identify early areas that may not be included in the scope of current W3C work.
<jasonjgw> Example: opportunities to solve scrolling problems for users with low vision.
<jasonjgw> Janina: expanding the use cases is one of the "solid services" this task force can provide to W3C.
<jasonjgw> Jason will create an accessibility use cases/requriements for XR wiki page.
<jasonjgw> Janina: it should be possible to suppress audio or video channels where they are not needed and are merely band width consumptive.
jgw: Useful, also we were
speculating on sign language opportunities as well
... One more piece is APA liaison to move forward
<jasonjgw> Janina is still working on the framework document regarding domain-specific content.
<jasonjgw> Janina notes the DIAGRAM Center meetings last week as well, where relevant topics were discussed.
<jasonjgw> Janina: design patterns for publishing of extended descriptions, mathematics and chemistry were addressed - the same patterns may be applicable to table summaries.
<jasonjgw> Janina the scheme is to provide an object (image, table, etc.), in the image case, probably in SVG. A text alternative is supplied, if necessary. The aria-details property refers to an alterantive (e.g., the MathML, ChemML, extended description). There is thus a programmatic cross-reference for AT users.
jgw: Interesting set of ideas
jgw; Doesn't require user to expand anything, just a link
jgw: May not always be
needed
... Some would be auto generated by javascript, not hand
authored
<jasonjgw> Janina: next steps - the aria-details-based approach will be implemented in the EPUB mathematics test book.
<jasonjgw> Janina thinks the proposed approach would be useful in some cases, including relatively short examples (e.g., short music fragments).
<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we're essentially waiting for the EPUB example to be created and to become available for discussion.
<jasonjgw> Janina will help to identify a suitable facilitator for the community group.
jgw: Discussion and agreement to create a Wiki page on RQTF presentations which will be ongoing
jgw: No call next week because of
CSUN
... Next call is 20 March
... Please note time change for some, U.S. will be on Daylight
Time
<scribe> ACTION: jasonjgw to Create wiki page to showcase RQTF presentations around the planet
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