<scribe> scribe: AnnAbbott
mck: new member from Bocoup -- Simon Pieters (AKA zcorpan on GitHub)
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/March-4%2C-2019-Meeting
mck: Wrap up EditorConfig
integration into Travis
... Question: do we want git touching all files to normalize
line endings?
... prefers EditorConfig to only run on what we want it to run
on
... anyone one else with EC experience?
... EC can modify any file the way it is configured
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/blob/master/package.json
Evan: will only modify html & markdown files
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/blob/master/.travis.yml
Evan: maybe make it nonblocking on travis and CI
<MarkMcCarthy> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/issue57-date-picker-design-pattern/aria-practices.html#date_picker
aa: placeholder disappears when end users enters any input
mck: list accessibility features
on an example-by-example basis
... aria-haspopup not currently supported by AT
Simon: html has native date - how does it relate to these patterns
mck: we try to encourage use of
native html when possible
... how is that native date handled?
<siri> I will keep my feedback on combobox datepicker in issue#35
Simon: when user-agent defined, what happens?
<jemma> https://www.w3.org/TR/html52/sec-forms.html#element-statedef-input-date
jg: dev doesn't like using
built-in browsers because they want to control user
experience
... this is about how to use aria to create widgets, not about
how to use html
jn: date controls in many browsers are not accessible
mck: use minimum amount of aria to demo the point
Simon: Accessible name calculation questions
jg: visible vs. nonvisible labels
mck: to what extent do we include html labeling here
<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say Isn't this covered by HTML-AAM? https://www.w3.org/TR/html-aam-1.0/#accessible-name-and-description-computation why re-write it?
aa: add ranking of labelledby, label and label for
mck: w3c resource that states what makes good label?
siri: visible label is required
No meeting March 11 due to CSUN
<MarkMcCarthy> +1 to making a decision on time change
Draft agenda for Next meeting on March 18 (https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/March-18%2C-2019-Meeting)
<mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/APG-Editorial-Style-Guidelines
mck: Discuss editorial
guidelines.
... specific to APG
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