20:52:29 RRSAgent has joined #dxwg 20:52:29 logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-irc 20:52:45 rrsagent, make logs public 20:52:50 chair: PWinstanley 20:53:32 regrets+ DaveBrowning (travel dependent), Ixchel Faniel, LarsG, Makx, riccardoAlbertoni, Antoine 20:53:50 rrsagent, create minutes v2 20:53:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley 20:56:32 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Profimes-Ont-&-Conneg-RFQ-emails 20:57:54 ncar has joined #dxwg 21:00:40 present+ 21:00:48 present+ 21:02:11 alejandra has joined #dxwg 21:02:43 annette_g has joined #dxwg 21:04:55 present+ 21:05:26 present+ 21:05:52 Sorry can't scribe today 21:06:57 present+ 21:07:27 scribenick: dsr 21:07:47 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.01.08 21:08:17 scribenick:kcoyle 21:08:26 topic:admin 21:08:37 Couple of minutes to approve … 21:08:37 minutes: https://www.w3.org/2018/12/18-dxwg-minutes 21:08:53 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Dec/0179.html 21:09:06 q+ 21:09:12 ack kcoyle 21:09:46 kcoyle: no decisions from the last meeting, too few members 21:09:53 for 20181218 minutes, I was absent (I was late and when I joined the meeting had finished, so sent late apologies) 21:10:05 resolved: accept minutes of Decmber 12 21:10:47 PWinstanley: do we need 5th f2f, and where? when? 21:10:47 AndreaPerego has joined #dxwg 21:11:07 ... march or june, alongside meetings 21:11:14 ... any others? 21:11:18 q+ 21:11:21 ... any comments? 21:11:24 present+ 21:11:24 ack ncar 21:11:28 +q 21:11:42 ncar: I will be in Slovenia, but unlikely in Germany 21:11:52 ack alejandra 21:11:57 PWinstanley: yes, that's why that is a good proposal 21:12:13 alejandra: not sure I have funding to attend either 21:12:38 I'm also unsure whether I'll be able to attend either. 21:12:54 I have zero funding for travel lately :( 21:13:05 q+ 21:13:08 PWinstanley: not thinking of location, but what about 5th f2f in general? do we need it? 21:13:10 ack ncar 21:13:33 I think it's needed. 21:13:40 antoine has joined #dxwg 21:13:44 meeting: DXWG plenary 21:14:00 ncar: would be useful to have before end for an overview of all; how they relate to each other 21:14:07 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.01.08 21:14:10 present+ antoine 21:14:14 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:14:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:14:18 PWinstanley: both coordination and the idea of creating primers 21:14:39 ncar: yes, this could be outlined quickly in a group 21:14:47 q+ 21:14:52 ack kcoyle 21:15:18 kcoyle: given how little we have done on the guidance doc, we should be thinking about a f2f related to that ... earlier than june 21:15:36 kcoyle: f2f relating to guidance document, which is not very far along 21:15:46 ... that would be best earlier than June 21:16:22 antoine: would be great if very cheap or free 21:16:35 are you proposing to organise it locally? ;-) 21:16:36 Makes sense to me. 21:17:07 PWinstanley: other option is to do a virtual f2f - have long virtual connectedness 21:17:16 q+ 21:17:18 I could do virtual F2F, any time day or night 21:17:21 ack antoine 21:17:23 ... gets around the money and travel question 21:17:37 antoine: perhaps we could try a few half day meetings? 21:17:56 q+ 21:18:01 ack AndreaPerego 21:18:33 AndreaPerego: would also be in favor of virtual f2f; but need to have a very clear agenda, a list of issues for decisions 21:18:46 ... remote is different from an actual f2f 21:19:49 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:19:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:19:57 topic: Open Action Items 21:20:03 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open 21:20:36 q+ 21:20:40 mine continues 21:20:43 ack ncar 21:20:54 q+ 21:20:56 #242 is yet to be done. 21:20:56 ncar: what is 244? 21:21:32 antoine: aligning different diagrams around the f2f in Genoa, and we discussed again in Lyon 21:21:58 ... trying to interpret what is going on with the profile discussion and to reconcile 21:22:23 ... still to be done 21:23:04 ... and will want ncar input, especially based on the paper being prepared 21:23:47 ncar: there are some issues that have appeared, but there are also changes that are coming from the paper and those will be integrated in the next week 21:24:22 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/265 21:25:02 q+ 21:25:04 AndreaPerego: relates to a github issue 265; rewording of requirement relating to association of data and metadata; don't exactly remember which output this relates to 21:25:07 ack ncar 21:25:31 q+ 21:25:46 q- 21:25:53 ncar: may not be needed for profile negotiation document; probably more on profile guidance 21:26:45 Just associated action-242 with profile-guidance. 21:26:49 PWinstanley: action 265 is on everyone to review the UCR 21:27:23 q+ 21:27:35 ack antoine 21:28:02 antoine: may be worth doing another review of UCR because we didn't get much feed back 21:28:11 ... maybe Nick can resend 21:28:44 topic: Prof Neg and Prof Ontology publications 21:28:46 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:28:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:29:24 PWinstanley: decided at dec 18 plenary to organize comments starting January 21:29:46 q+ 21:29:49 +q 21:29:55 ... what opportunities will people have to discuss this at meetings? 21:29:55 ack ncar 21:30:23 ncar: Australian Gov't working group chairs meeting will discuss this because plan to use these 21:30:40 ... OGC Geosemantics domain wg coming up 21:30:55 ... also Aust/NZ profiles md working group 21:31:12 ... have sent out about 15 notifications to Australian sources 21:31:32 PWinstanley: videos and blog posts helpful 21:31:51 ... need to give people a deadline 21:32:17 ... what are some realistic dates? give folks a 3-4 week deadline 21:32:44 ... try to get responses to public working list 21:32:53 ack alejandra 21:33:24 http://software.ac.uk/ 21:33:35 q+ to mention mail from ODRL CG on DXWG Profiles 21:33:39 alejandra: I'm writing a blog post because funding for f2f in Lyon is based on that; will send a draft and then it will be published at software.ac.uk web site 21:33:42 ack AndreaPerego 21:33:42 AndreaPerego, you wanted to mention mail from ODRL CG on DXWG Profiles 21:34:01 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-odrl/2019Jan/0000.html 21:34:48 AndreaPerego: has been posted to ODRL working group mailing list 21:34:56 q+ 21:35:04 ... can they be reviewers? 21:35:47 ncar: was picked up from W3C notification on home page; we should probably contact other W3C groups 21:35:52 ack antoine 21:36:27 antoine: names others to be contacted re:ODRL and ProfOnt 21:36:59 s/others/Michael Steidl 21:37:13 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:37:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:37:15 topic: UCR 21:38:41 antoine: Jaro has been checking and fixing links; need to check the Europeana links; after that should be close to ready 21:38:53 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:38:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:39:00 topic: profile guidance 21:39:33 kcoyle: I updated the doc incorporating the requirements to style like the UCR, but no writing done yet 21:39:36 q+ 21:39:41 ack antoine 21:40:14 antoine: this is a major improvement; for fpwd we can fill in some text in sections but not all of them 21:40:35 topic: DCAT-Rev 21:41:06 alejandra: the editor's draft has some changes; we decided not to release in December but may do on in January 21:41:21 ... everyone should look at editor's draft and make comments 21:41:50 ... additions related to licenses and rights; quality information; description of qualified relationships 21:42:15 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/14 21:42:44 ... milestone - focus for immediate work, could be 3rd WD; many are editorial but others are in a closing state 21:42:48 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/15 21:43:06 ... other milestone aligns other issues; there are issues that may not be addressed by end of WG 21:43:17 ... asking group for priorities 21:43:51 PWinstanley: how do they feel about increasing rate of publication? 21:44:46 alejandra: everyone agrees; however, needs to go through this group for approval; therefore need the time for the plenary to review 21:45:18 q+ to propose we do the same as DCAT for PROF 21:45:23 ack AndreaPerego 21:45:23 AndreaPerego, you wanted to propose we do the same as DCAT for PROF 21:46:11 AndreaPerego: can we adopt same schedule for prof ontology? there are some things that have come to light while working on paper 21:46:32 ... can we focus on these for a new release? 21:46:35 +1 to creating a mileston for PROF 21:46:37 q+ 21:46:43 s/mileston/milestone 21:46:48 ack antoine 21:46:50 ... question of whether we need basePRofile? 21:47:13 q+ 21:47:17 ack ncar 21:47:20 antoine: +1, I also have some notes that include AndreaPerego's issues, will put them in github in the next few days 21:47:57 ncar: looks fine, it's a matter of doing it; chunks of the paper that could be included in PWD 21:48:19 s/basePRofile/prof:BaseSpecification/ 21:48:22 ... some things are changes/issues and we can tag them for the next WD 21:48:37 ... there are uncontroversial ones 21:48:38 Thanks, ncar 21:49:17 PWinstanley: Anything else for today? 21:49:49 +q 21:49:52 ncar: Clear who to send profile ontology WD to; less clear for conneg; need help to get that out 21:50:36 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:50:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:50:38 PWinstanley: yes, agree. Blog posts, etc. reach a larger audience 21:51:41 ack alejandra 21:52:25 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 21:52:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/01/08-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:52:35 same document in use for all contacts (read only link): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit?usp=sharing 21:53:01 thanks, and bye all! 21:53:24 rrsagent, set logs public