<Lisa_> scribe: Glenda
Lisa: finalizing plans for Face-to-Face
Dates and location finalied. Jan 28-29, 2019. Location: Southampton, UK See more details here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18TJ8JAC0u0Fa64MnONOA2Cs8MBTcJQxfnFDqK6KVxD0/edit#heading=h.t43nojebo34p
Lisa: see preliminary agenda in google doc (for travel planning)
JohnR: for me, know what we will be discussing, will help me determine if I will attend in person
Jennie: Another thing that would help is if I have start/end times of meeting.
<kirkwood> Agreed, I would need times as well. thank you
MichaelC: W3C policy is to have metting details 8 weeks in advance.
JohnR: is there going to be a remote possibility for attendance?
<kirkwood> likewise
Jennie: can we document when “in
person attendance will be very, very, very important for
productive participation)
... if we have times, clear agenda, and why face-to-face is
needed.
... I will need to understand all budget details for expenses
too (including meals)
<JohnRochford> John admires Glenda's use of y'all with U.K. folks.
<Lisa_> aganda?
Alastair - put out cfc last week. unanimous decision.
Lisa: Thanks to Janina for her
support on this too. Lots of effort from all. Thanks to all for
your help in making this happen. We should have updated
publications as early as next week.
... We have standing permission to update the working
draft…without a delay waiting for permission. The next time we
will need permission…is when we want to move to a
recommendation.
Alastair: We want to find objections before we go to a vote for finalizing it as a consensus recommendation.
Lisa: review draft of our
timeline
... assume we do face-to-face at end of January. Then come back
and complete follow-up items. Then have next publication in Feb
2019. realistic, or too optimistic?
<kirkwood> yes
Is Silver ready for us to contribute?
Alastair: I believe some members of the group should keep an eye on Silver and be involved. This group has a lot of value to add.
Lisa: We need to make sure our hard cases fit into the proposed Silver structure. So, it is important to look at it now.
Rachael: do we have a list of what is considered the “hardest” things to get into Silver?
Lisa: We had listed the top 3.
JohnR had worked on “accessibile authentication” - structurally
easier case.
... Then we were thinking of “Design Patterns” as a very hard
one.
... Another challenging one is “Plain Language”
<Lisa_> resolution to priding examples for silver
Alastiar: EA also mentioned “White Space” as a good one for Silver.
Lisa: any objections?
<kirkwood> no objection
+1 support of testing some of our hard cases in Silver. And big thanks to all currently working on it.
<Lisa_> who can attend on the 20th
<Jennie> Either is fine
<kirkwood> 27th and the 3rd would include new years
Lisa: I think we should take off 2 weeks
<Lisa_> we will take off 27th and the 3rd would include new years
<Lisa_> https://github.com/w3c/coga/blob/master/issue-papers/wayfinding-indoors.html
<kirkwood> sure
<kirkwood> I think JR and I did coordinate
<Lisa_> https://w3c.github.io/coga/design/
Lisa: we have design guide that is full of things we couldn’t get in to WCAG 2.1. This is advice to authors. It is not intended to be testable. It is meaningful guidance to creating good content/design to reduce cognitive friction.
<Lisa_> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#
Lisa: we have editor notes that
show were work still needs to be done. We are actively doing
the writing in a google doc. Then after we are happy with it
(as a group)…then we put it into github
... Jennie worked on “2.3.9 Toolbars and controls do not
disappear” at
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#heading=h.dgd1m22rf
Jennie: Is the focus of 2.3.9..when you are unaware of a control unless you are interacting with it?
Lisa: Yes.
(2.3.10 Sub-menu items that are clearly associated with the main menu items under which they fall.) - is related to (2.3.9 Toolbars and controls do not disappear)
?
Lisa: nope, these are two different items.
<kirkwood> yes
<Jennie> Thank you! :)
<kirkwood> .. yup you’re right. yes template would be useful
Lisa: John Kirkwood, would you like to try and write “2.3.10 Sub-menu items that are clearly associated with the main menu items under which they fall.”
JohnK - yes
Lisa: need someone to review 2.3.5.1 Chunk Media
Rachael, I’ll take a try.
Lisa: It is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit# (Look for 2.3.5.1 Chunk Media)
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