<DaveBrowning> regrets Alasdair Gray, Erik Mannens, Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson, Makx
alejandra: comment from @smrgeoinfo on 2PWD
… discussion on identifiers
… also funder
<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/529
agenda agreed with addition of funders, identifiers
minutes of last meeting https://www.w3.org/2018/11/07-dxwgdcat-minutes
<alejandra> +1
<RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
<DaveBrowning> propose: accept minutes of last meeting
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<RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
<DaveBrowning> +1
Resolved: accept minutes of last meeting
https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
<DaveBrowning> SimonCox: Qualified relations action 125 - wiki page now in use
<DaveBrowning> ... page has examples, perhaps now is thetime to close the action
<DaveBrowning> link is here : https://csiro.webex.com/csiro/j.php?MTID=m7f5ece41d26d5e36c16af8c20faadc15
AndreaPerego: access rights and license need decisionn from WG
… clarify that access rights are for access permissions not use permission
<AndreaPerego> About accessRights, relevant issues are https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/160 & https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/59
RiccardoAlbertoni: need to maintain consensus
can you summarize the disagreement AndreaPerego ?
AndreaPerego: 3 properties in DC - rights, accessRights, license
… original proposal was based on assumption that these could be cleanly separated
… discovery use-cases complicate this
… particularly if use- and access- are combined in one description
… then there is ODRL capability
<AndreaPerego> Access policies in ODRL: http://w3c.github.io/poe/bp/#example-2-representation-of-access-policies-to-digital-resources
the concern is whether all rights are bundled in one property (possibly structured in an ODRL form), or split across multiple DC properties
AndreaPerego: if bundled makes it difficult to select/filter in discovery scenarios
AndreaPerego: came across this problem when dealing with lawyers
DaveBrowning: has been looking at Google dataset search
… is quite rudimentary. Appears that they are only looking at content of 'license' tag
… often includes access and 'fair use' provisions
<alejandra> they only recommend schema:license - https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/dataset
DaveBrowning: the legacy will be difficult, in DCAT we can make a _recommendation_ but not necessarily widespread adoption
<DaveBrowning> SimonCox: Getting adoption may be hard, but some will pay attention particularly where its important and understood
<DaveBrowning> ... need to be careful of creating too much nuance
AndreaPerego: proposal was primarily a recommendation for people mmoving forward
<AndreaPerego> OpenAIRE access levels: https://guidelines.openaire.eu/en/latest/literature/field_accesslevel.html
<AndreaPerego> DCAT-AP access rights: http://publications.europa.eu/mdr/resource/authority/access-right/html/access-right-eng.html
AndreaPerego: the distinction bbetween access and use rights really is made by some users now
… people who want to do the right thing do deserve some guidance
Is there a suitable text available?
AndreaPerego: will make a proposal in the issue
RiccardoAlbertoni: will this create a normative provision?
<AndreaPerego> I think it can be kept informative.
RiccardoAlbertoni: informative parts of document are important. Don't need to be 100% sure about guidelines.
AndreaPerego: original DCAT did not provide enough examples and guidelines
… this led to too much diversity!
… in this case we are just clarifying different roles of license and accessRights and why it might be useful for metadata providers to separate the information
DaveBrowning: definitely need more guidance within the DCAT doc
<AndreaPerego> Yep! Thank you
Action: AndreaPerego to draft proposal and add togithub issue
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DaveBrowning: need to commit now if we are to achieve this in Nov/Dec
alejandra: do we have enough change?
… very few major issues have been concluded
… target (i) rights/license (ii) identifiers (3 related issues)
AndreaPerego: look at milestone?
<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/14
alejandra: will split issues between 3pwd milestone and a final milestone
<alejandra> +1 to Xmas release
DaveBrowning: urges 3pwd before xmas
Action: alejandra to split milestone
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DaveBrowning: informed decision will be possible in January, when real deadlines will be better known
s/infofed/informed/
AndreaPerego: following threads accross the GitHub issues is challenging - lets foccus on the issues in the milestones
All agree to focus on milestone issues
RiccardoAlbertoni: lets try to create agenda with 2 days notice and identify which issues will be actually discussed.
… e.g. next call: do identifiers
RRSAgent: draft minutes v2
RRSAgent: draft minutes v2
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