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<MichielBijl> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/605
mck: requesting feedback
<mck> Link to proposal: https://rawgit.com/carmacleod/aria-practices/issue605/examples/menubar/menubar-2/menubar-2.html
mck: should be able to distinguish between checkbox & radio in menu?
mb: should be able to if grouped
jn: no way to know a checkbox
until checked
... happy with example except off state doesn't display
siri: off state should show up for kbd only users
mb: does it display that way in native app?
mck: when navigated, shouldn't
only show on focus
... only show on state?
... take most accessible native approach unless compelling
reason to do otherwise
jg: could have different styling - just for selected state
<jamesn> GitHub: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/605
mb: agrees
mck: comment in PR #853
<jemma> jemma: I agree with "too heavy lift example problem".
jg: will comment in #853
mck: proposal: given that there
are any number of datepickers, may not have all examples needed
at this time
... proposes in short term, put the datepicker in combobox
pattern. Then when we have more examples, have datepicker
section
... current dir is "datepicker" but needs combobox example
jg: can get student to work on other examples as priority
mck: great!
... create issue for list of other datepicker examples
siri: is carousel example ready to use?
jg: current carousel is ok to use
mck: read thru open issue on carousel
mck
<mck> The spinbutton element has aria-invalid set to true if the value is outside the allowed range. Note that most implementations prevent input of invalid
<mck> values, but in some scenarios, blocking all invalid input may not be practical.
<jemma> michiel:"Most spinbutton implementations will prevent the input of invalid values. But, in some cases blocking invalid input might not be practical. In such scenarios aria-invalid is set to true if the value is outside of the allowed range."
mb had email question, but mck says guidance comes first - mb is ok
mck: discuss Issue #826
... normally input with increase/decrease buttons around
it
... or spinner takes direct input
... increase/decrease are child of text in spec
jg: sees sibling elements
bg: on touchscreen devices, needs
to be composite
... JAWS not good at announcing spin buttons
mb: language doesn't say has to be composite
mck: spec says spinbutton role is on composite
mb: role=spinbutton is on textbox
mck: edit has to be part of spinbutton, not spinbutton itself
mb: spec isn't entirely clear
mck: right, do we need to create both in our examples?
mb: I think so
mck: plan on making both
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/756
aa: example of 2.2.3 is WCAG AAA criteria
<jemma> 2.2.1 Timing Adjustable Level A For each time limit that is set by the content, at least one of the following is true:
<jemma> 2.2.3 No Timing Level AAA Timing is not an essential part of the event or activity presented by the content, except for non-interactive synchronized media and real-time events.
WCAG 2.2.1: https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/NOTE-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20161007/time-limits-required-behaviors.html
jg: confirmation alert that needs to be user dismissed is usability issue
jn: ; have setting in user
preferences
... screen magnifiers need to be aware
mck: alert dialogs get focus and are dismissed with "Esc"
jn: alerts may have navigatable content within them
mck: not solid on alert discussion - add to future agenda
<jemma> jemma: no vacation day for columbus day
<jongund> JG: Got to go
September 3: no meeting due to US Labor Day holiday.
No meeting on Oct 22 & 29
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