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Milestone for 1.2 APG Working Draft 1 (https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/milestone/7)
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/milestone/7
jn: provide guidance on first
three
... when cost prohibited to totally rewrite code, add ARIA -
better than doing nothing
<jamesn> Steve's first rule of aria
<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/TR/aria-in-html/#firstrule
jn: would like ASAP - can modify later as needed
mck: target pull request before
Thurs ARIA call
... currently has widget focus, except Section 4 (landmarks)
plus more
... segment into Patterns, Guidance and How To plus
Appendix
... divide guide into Structure and Patterns
... propose making last section (#9)
jn: will do pr for that
mck: no APG 1.2 branch created
yet
... ok to not have Structure until 1.2?
jn: target Q42019 completion for ARIA 1.2
mck: will work with Michael on 1.2 branch set-up
jn: already done #701 but has nowhere to put it
mck: setting up 1.2 branch will take care of that
<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/564
#564 aria-errormessage gets ID pointing to another place on page
mck: author MUST either remove
aria-errormessage attribute OR make sure message isn't
rendered
... seems unnecessary author overhead if user agent is
validating
jg: working with student on
inline error mssg
... aria-errormessage and aria-describedby can co-exist?
mck: confusing when they get
concantonated
... doesn't think spec is super practical
... do error message and describedby need to be mutually
exclusive
... error message + describedby only if significantly
different
jg: screen readers can filter, correct?
mck: screen readers do not want to be in deciding position
jn: verbosity settings determine whether describedby is announced
siri: don't confuse user: describedby = instructions, error message = errors
jg: what happens if both point to same ID?
mck: don't know - spec doesn't
say. Need example
... one example with native HTML (no other aria)
jg: ok
mck: : First Public Working Draft 1.2 - doesn't have guidance section
jg: can take on guidance
section
... can work on guidance for treegrid also
mck: including impact today
doesn't have any downside
... probably already out there in Chrome & FF
mck: jg created pr for #592 & #159
jg: can't put links inside other
links
... sometimes link has menu item, sometimes not
no meeting July 2, July 23, July 30
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